[Update] Cameron promises EU referendum by October 2017

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Chris CFT, you ceratinly do your research, but people change you know.

Originally Posted by Gary L

That's a yes then.

I thought so too. he really thinks he's important now amongst all the other 'leaders'
Obama is still the man in my eyes though. Dave will never be in his class.

Once again, you would be wrong - that's a no, then.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Anyone else think that Dave thinks he's God. and is going to take over the world?

No

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Sirius

No

I don't mean he is going to take over the world. just that he thinks he can.

I heard a new nickname for him tonight. Mr Blobby

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Gary L

I don't mean he is going to take over the world. just that he thinks he can.

I heard a new nickname for him tonight. Mr Blobby

Well done Gary on giving us the perspective from the kindergarten.

Here is a question: Who may vote in the referendum? EU Citizens that effectively live here can vote in local and European elections whereas they cannot vote in the Parliamentary elections. Since EU Citizens can vote in European elections and since this issue could impact upon them will they be allowed to vote in the referendum or will it be limited to UK nationals?

What would happen to EU citizens who live here if we left the EU? Would they get a right to remain or will the Immigration service turn up to turf them out?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Damien

Here is a question: Who may vote in the referendum? EU Citizens that effectively live here can vote in local and European elections whereas they cannot vote in the Parliamentary elections. Since EU Citizens can vote in European elections and since this issue could impact upon them will they be allowed to vote in the referendum or will it be limited to UK nationals?

What would happen to EU citizens who live here if we left the EU? Would they get a right to remain or will the Immigration service turn up to turf them out?

I would prefer that the referendum is limited to UK nationals. As for remaining here after the vote should it be Yes to leaving, i would expect those EU citizens already here would be offered the right to remain

[Mick Fisher]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Well done Gary on giving us the perspective from the kindergarten.

True but I have to admit to being quite amused by Gary's post.

Originally Posted by Sirius

I would prefer that the referendum is limited to UK nationals. As for remaining here after the vote should it be Yes to leaving, i would expect those EU citizens already here would be offered the right to remain

and we would be more able to kick them off state benefits until they have earned them,and if they cannot find a job or will not give up their black market job while claiming benefits then the country they came from can support them using their own benefit system instead of ours

If we left the EU, I wonder how this would affect all the Brit ex-pats in France, Spain, Cyprus, etc.

Originally Posted by martyh

and we would be more able to kick them off state benefits until they have earned them,and if they cannot find a job or will not give up their black market job while claiming benefits then the country they came from can support them using their own benefit system instead of ours

I think it doesn't work like that. I posted this prior albeit no one really followed it up..

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/englan...rom_abroad.htm

In practice, even if you come from one of [EU] countries, you won't automatically get benefits. For example, if you’re an EEA jobseeker who has never worked in the UK, you won't be able to claim benefits like Income Support, income-based Jobseeker's Allowance, Child Benefit, Housing Benefit or Council Tax Benefit. But if you're an EEA worker who has been employed in the UK before becoming unemployed, you might be able to claim benefits whilst you’re looking for new work. This depends on which EEA country you're from and how long you've worked in the UK.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Hugh

If we left the EU, I wonder how this would affect all the Brit ex-pats in France, Spain, Cyprus, etc.

Indeed it will be an issue for them.

Originally Posted by Hugh

If we left the EU, I wonder how this would affect all the Brit ex-pats in France, Spain, Cyprus, etc.

I really want to know this. Especially in the other direction.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Damien

I think it doesn't work like that. I posted this prior albeit no one really followed it up..

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/englan...rom_abroad.htm

Lots of info here for brits working abroad

http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/claiming-benefits-in-europe

Info for this country here

http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_ad...g_and_benefits

Originally Posted by Damien

I think it doesn't work like that. I posted this prior albeit no one really followed it up..

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/englan...rom_abroad.htm

They can however claim jobseekers ,use the NHS and schools .I realise that it is not simply a case of foreigners turning up and taking our money but outside of the EU we would have a lot more freedom to turn foreign workers away and also asylum seekers who do get housing and benefits