[Update] Cameron promises EU referendum by October 2017
 

is there an election due in a couple of years because that's usually when politicians bring the issue of European membership to the forefront

"at the next election" does that mean that somewhere buried in the manifesto there will be some reference to possibly getting some obscure piece of EU legislation changed that won't really change anything ?


Maybe the problem is that it is too difficult a question to ask so i thought of a way to do it .get a piece of paper and on that paper write "do you want the UK to remain in the EU" and then put 2 empty boxes on that paper so a small tick can be placed in 1 of them ,then print about 50million of them and distribute to the general populace .simples


Yes dave ,that will do for a start ,of course it is largely ignored anyway by workers and employers and we had almost identical legislation in place in this country before so won't actually make a difference .


http://news.sky.com/story/1034081/vo...oice-on-europe

re: Cameron promises a "real choice" on Europe
 

It's his first attack against UKIP... and it won't be the last. AFAIC the political drift will be away from the main 3 parties towards UKIP, and there is no way he wants to be in a situation where he will need UKIP's backing in government.

re: Cameron promises a "real choice" on Europe
 

Yeah we'll have a choice. We can either vote 'yes' to stay in the EU or we can vote 'No' and be asked again until we get the 'right' answer...

re: Cameron promises a "real choice" on Europe
 

That would get my vote if a party had the balls to do it.

re: [Update] Cameron promises EU referendum by October 2017
 

Re: Cameron promises a vote on Europe
 

Problem is though if we left the EU who would the government blame when their ineptitude leads to financial/social disaster ,no longer will they be able to say "we where forced into it by the EU"

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Cheers hugh ,i suppose there is a difference between "real choice" and an actual vote ,in politician speak anyway

re: [Update] Cameron promises EU referendum by October 2017
 

Definitely - if you read the story, he weasel-words around whether there will be an actual vote on in/out of Europe, just waffle on how the Conservatives will be different (therefore being a "real choice", apparently...).

Re: Cameron promises a vote on Europe
 

I think you'll find that has already happened. At the moment the government is frantically spinning and borrowing just to pay the 'leccy bill etc.

The important question to me as a citizen is whether we would recover faster inside or out of the EU.

Re: Cameron promises a vote on Europe
 

The sooner we are out of the EU the sooner we can work out the answer to that question.

re: [Update] Cameron promises EU referendum by October 2017
 

it is true he will give us a real choice, if you vote conservative, labour or libdem you get Europe.

re: [Update] Cameron promises EU referendum by October 2017
 

I had said i would not vote at the next election, however i have now decided to give that vote to UKIP and hope it makes a difference.

re: [Update] Cameron promises EU referendum by October 2017
 

I might have some of that too.

re: [Update] Cameron promises EU referendum by October 2017
 

:tu:

re: [Update] Cameron promises EU referendum by October 2017
 

The Economist had a good article about the benefits to the UK of the European Union a while back: http://www.economist.com/news/leader...ld-be-reckless

Worth a read. We rarely get the case for in the this country and we'll be making a big decision:

re: [Update] Cameron promises EU referendum by October 2017
 

Oh great so we get some trade and a few car plants, in return the EU to all intents and purposes control what we can and cannot do as a country. Sorry but i prefer for us to be able to control our own laws not some unelected bureaucrats in Brussels who probably hates us as well in between fiddling his expenses paid for by us. :mad:.

Damien you probably get the drift i hate the EU with every fibre of my soul and would vote if we ever get the chance to get the hell out of it. I feel i am not alone in this regard