25-11-2008, 09:29
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Re: Atheist ads on London buses
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Eh?
The implication clearly is that this would not happen in a life life with 'moral parameters set out by the 10 commandments'. Coupled with a photo of Baby P. for good measure. Nice stuff 
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Of course it's a sweeping generalisation that theists have caused all the trouble on the planet which is pretty much what is being currently said and implied by many 'militant' atheists...
It's still true that us atheists have no better handle on life than any other group though.
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25-11-2008, 10:41
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Re: Atheist ads on London buses
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Originally Posted by Maggy J
Of course it's a sweeping generalisation that theists have caused all the trouble on the planet which is pretty much what is being currently said and implied by many 'militant' atheists...
It's still true that us atheists have no better handle on life than any other group though. 
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Erm yes, but that's not what she said, or implied.
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25-11-2008, 14:47
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Re: Atheist ads on London buses
I have never met an atheist that claimed to have any better way of running things purely that they didn't believe in a god of any sort and other then that there is no difference between them and people of faith in how they live their life to suggest otherwise shows total ignorance.
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25-11-2008, 16:20
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Re: Atheist ads on London buses
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
I have never met an atheist that claimed to have any better way of running things purely that they didn't believe in a god of any sort and other then that there is no difference between them and people of faith in how they live their life to suggest otherwise shows total ignorance.
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Plenty of them want religion kept out of schools, which I'm pressuming they think is a better way of running things.
Ignorance is exclusive of beliefs (or lack of).
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25-11-2008, 16:43
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Re: Atheist ads on London buses
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Originally Posted by Russ B
Plenty of them want religion kept out of schools, which I'm pressuming they think is a better way of running things.
Ignorance is exclusive of beliefs (or lack of).
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Depends how the religion is presented and taught.
Most, but the most militant, I'm sure would have no problem with R.E. that teaches children about ALL the main faiths around the world. In fact I think it is essential in todays world.
What I am against is creationism and I.D. being taught as fact.
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25-11-2008, 16:48
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Re: Atheist ads on London buses
" life without a spiritual sense of purpose, or the moral parameters set by the Ten Commandments -- is a living hell."
moral parameters ! presumably the same moral perameters as used by the catholic priesthood, when there abusing small boys.  
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25-11-2008, 16:57
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Re: Atheist ads on London buses
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Originally Posted by ANTOINE
Depends how the religion is presented and taught.
Most, but the most militant, I'm sure would have no problem with R.E. that teaches children about ALL the main faiths around the world. In fact I think it is essential in todays world.
What I am against is creationism and I.D. being taught as fact.
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Creationism and ID are a different matter. But as for 'militants', I can only surmise that there's a lot of them on CF if those are the parameters.
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25-11-2008, 17:20
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Re: Atheist ads on London buses
Poor Mary should note that the social ills for which she blames atheism, began at a time of mass religious delusion in this country. It was under that mass delusion that the rape and disgusting abuse of children was tolerated. It was the church, under the guidance of Ratzinger, which implemented a policy of collusion with clerical sex abuse, reckoning that the public perception of the church was more important than the suffering of children. Suffer the little children indeed. It was the church that presided over the evaporation of moral behaviour in this land, and it has nothing to do with atheism.
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25-11-2008, 17:20
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Re: Atheist ads on London buses
Not this old chestnut again.
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25-11-2008, 17:23
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Re: Atheist ads on London buses
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Originally Posted by Lain Andrew
Poor Mary should note that the social ills for which she blames atheism, began at a time of mass religious delusion in this country. It was under that mass delusion that the rape and disgusting abuse of children was tolerated. It was the church, under the guidance of Ratzinger, which implemented a policy of collusion with clerical sex abuse, reckoning that the public perception of the church was more important than the suffering of children. Suffer the little children indeed. It was the church that presided over the evaporation of moral behaviour in this land, and it has nothing to do with atheism.
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She's sticking up for Christianity itself, not 'the church'.
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25-11-2008, 17:25
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Re: Atheist ads on London buses
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Not this old chestnut again. 
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the truth is not a chestnut
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25-11-2008, 17:29
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Re: Atheist ads on London buses
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Speaking of which, why aren't paedophilia and rape on the list?
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Originally Posted by ANTOINE
I'm not a religious person, however, if you are going to live by a set of rules - then some of these 10 are a pretty good start, the non-religious ones,.eg
Honor your father and your mother
you shall not kill
Neither shall you commit adultery
Neither shall you steal
Neither shall you bear false witness against your neighbour
Neither shall you covet your neighbour's wife
Neither shall you desire your neighbor's house
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Or was there another tablet that was dropped and broken on Mount Sinai?
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25-11-2008, 17:35
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Re: Atheist ads on London buses
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Originally Posted by Lain Andrew
Poor Mary should note that the social ills for which she blames atheism, began at a time of mass religious delusion in this country. It was under that mass delusion that the rape and disgusting abuse of children was tolerated. It was the church, under the guidance of Ratzinger, which implemented a policy of collusion with clerical sex abuse, reckoning that the public perception of the church was more important than the suffering of children. Suffer the little children indeed. It was the church that presided over the evaporation of moral behaviour in this land, and it has nothing to do with atheism.
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Samo,samo...all the wars were the fault of religion,all the abuse is the fault of religion.Everything bad is down to religion and all people of all faiths.
Every good deed done in the name of religious faith is totally ignored.
Yes we atheists are capable of being good moral upright people BUT we don't have the ownership of morals or being honest wonderful people.WE are as capable of truly awful behaviour as many theists are.
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25-11-2008, 17:44
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Re: Atheist ads on London buses
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Originally Posted by Maggy J
Samo,samo...all the wars were the fault of religion,all the abuse is the fault of religion.Everything bad is down to religion and all people of all faiths.
Every good deed done in the name of religious faith is totally ignored.
Yes we atheists are capable of being good moral upright people BUT we don't have the ownership of morals or being honest wonderful people.WE are as capable of truly awful behaviour as many theists are.
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25-11-2008, 17:46
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Re: Atheist ads on London buses
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Originally Posted by TheNorm
Speaking of which, why aren't paedophilia and rape on the list?
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I don't know, ask Moses
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