Atheist ads on London buses

Originally Posted by danielf

Eh?







The implication clearly is that this would not happen in a life life with 'moral parameters set out by the 10 commandments'. Coupled with a photo of Baby P. for good measure. Nice stuff

Of course it's a sweeping generalisation that theists have caused all the trouble on the planet which is pretty much what is being currently said and implied by many 'militant' atheists...

It's still true that us atheists have no better handle on life than any other group though.

[danielf]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Of course it's a sweeping generalisation that theists have caused all the trouble on the planet which is pretty much what is being currently said and implied by many 'militant' atheists...

It's still true that us atheists have no better handle on life than any other group though.

Erm yes, but that's not what she said, or implied.

I have never met an atheist that claimed to have any better way of running things purely that they didn't believe in a god of any sort and other then that there is no difference between them and people of faith in how they live their life to suggest otherwise shows total ignorance.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

I have never met an atheist that claimed to have any better way of running things purely that they didn't believe in a god of any sort and other then that there is no difference between them and people of faith in how they live their life to suggest otherwise shows total ignorance.

Plenty of them want religion kept out of schools, which I'm pressuming they think is a better way of running things.

Ignorance is exclusive of beliefs (or lack of).

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Russ B

Plenty of them want religion kept out of schools, which I'm pressuming they think is a better way of running things.

Ignorance is exclusive of beliefs (or lack of).

Depends how the religion is presented and taught.

Most, but the most militant, I'm sure would have no problem with R.E. that teaches children about ALL the main faiths around the world. In fact I think it is essential in todays world.

What I am against is creationism and I.D. being taught as fact.

[papa smurf]

" life without a spiritual sense of purpose, or the moral parameters set by the Ten Commandments -- is a living hell."



moral parameters ! presumably the same moral perameters as used by the catholic priesthood, when there abusing small boys.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by ANTOINE

Depends how the religion is presented and taught.

Most, but the most militant, I'm sure would have no problem with R.E. that teaches children about ALL the main faiths around the world. In fact I think it is essential in todays world.

What I am against is creationism and I.D. being taught as fact.

Creationism and ID are a different matter. But as for 'militants', I can only surmise that there's a lot of them on CF if those are the parameters.

[Lain Andrew]

Poor Mary should note that the social ills for which she blames atheism, began at a time of mass religious delusion in this country. It was under that mass delusion that the rape and disgusting abuse of children was tolerated. It was the church, under the guidance of Ratzinger, which implemented a policy of collusion with clerical sex abuse, reckoning that the public perception of the church was more important than the suffering of children. Suffer the little children indeed. It was the church that presided over the evaporation of moral behaviour in this land, and it has nothing to do with atheism.

[Cerberus]

Not this old chestnut again.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Lain Andrew

Poor Mary should note that the social ills for which she blames atheism, began at a time of mass religious delusion in this country. It was under that mass delusion that the rape and disgusting abuse of children was tolerated. It was the church, under the guidance of Ratzinger, which implemented a policy of collusion with clerical sex abuse, reckoning that the public perception of the church was more important than the suffering of children. Suffer the little children indeed. It was the church that presided over the evaporation of moral behaviour in this land, and it has nothing to do with atheism.

She's sticking up for Christianity itself, not 'the church'.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Cerberus

Not this old chestnut again.

the truth is not a chestnut

[TheNorm]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

... when there abusing small boys.

Speaking of which, why aren't paedophilia and rape on the list?

Originally Posted by ANTOINE

I'm not a religious person, however, if you are going to live by a set of rules - then some of these 10 are a pretty good start, the non-religious ones,.eg

Honor your father and your mother

you shall not kill

Neither shall you commit adultery

Neither shall you steal

Neither shall you bear false witness against your neighbour

Neither shall you covet your neighbour's wife

Neither shall you desire your neighbor's house
....

Or was there another tablet that was dropped and broken on Mount Sinai?

Originally Posted by Lain Andrew

Poor Mary should note that the social ills for which she blames atheism, began at a time of mass religious delusion in this country. It was under that mass delusion that the rape and disgusting abuse of children was tolerated. It was the church, under the guidance of Ratzinger, which implemented a policy of collusion with clerical sex abuse, reckoning that the public perception of the church was more important than the suffering of children. Suffer the little children indeed. It was the church that presided over the evaporation of moral behaviour in this land, and it has nothing to do with atheism.

Samo,samo...all the wars were the fault of religion,all the abuse is the fault of religion.Everything bad is down to religion and all people of all faiths.

Every good deed done in the name of religious faith is totally ignored.

Yes we atheists are capable of being good moral upright people BUT we don't have the ownership of morals or being honest wonderful people.WE are as capable of truly awful behaviour as many theists are.

[Lain Andrew]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Samo,samo...all the wars were the fault of religion,all the abuse is the fault of religion.Everything bad is down to religion and all people of all faiths.

Every good deed done in the name of religious faith is totally ignored.

Yes we atheists are capable of being good moral upright people BUT we don't have the ownership of morals or being honest wonderful people.WE are as capable of truly awful behaviour as many theists are.

Be responsible for your life and use the word I not we.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by TheNorm

Speaking of which, why aren't paedophilia and rape on the list?

I don't know, ask Moses