Headteacher Quits After Pet Lamb Slaughtered

[Digital Fanatic]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Nothing about minorities there..

A minority appear to have a say in screwing up their children's(and others) education.They also have set out to hound a perfectly good and respected teacher out of her job by setting up a Facebook entry.

Hardly democratic.

I don't think anyone in this thread thinks that was right... I've already said that the freaks spoil it for the sane... the argument can be lost because of them

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I'm finished with this now... there's nothing more to say.

[rogerdraig]

not a perfectly good head teacher imho else she would have made sure everyone was onside BEFORE starting this exercise off ( i don't support using the internet to make hate sites but i would have used every legal channel to remove her from my kids school )

not her job to decide when how kids learn about this in this way, its the parents job

who seem damned if they leave it to the school as being condemned for not being involved with their kids education and damned if they do take an interest for being interfering

and they wonder why home schooling is rocketing

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

I don't think anyone in this thread thinks that was right... I've already said that the freaks spoil it for the sane... the argument can be lost because of them

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I'm finished with this now... there's nothing more to say.

ditto

Originally Posted by rogermevans

not a perfectly good head teacher imho else she would have made sure everyone was onside BEFORE starting this exercise off ( i don't support using the internet to make hate sites but i would have used every legal channel to remove her from my kids school )

not her job to decide when how kids learn about this in this way, its the parents job

who seem damned if they leave it to the school as being condemned for not being involved with their kids education and damned if they do take an interest for being interfering

and they wonder why home schooling is rocketing

Actually she is a very good teacher head hunted to turn a failing school around and IF you had bothered to even read any of the articles about this story you would have picked up on that.Up until this event she was doing a very fine job.

If only the few parents whom took umbrage had gone for home schooling..

[rogerdraig]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Actually she is a very good teacher head hunted to turn a failing school around and IF you had bothered to even read any of the articles about this story you would have picked up on that.Up until this event she was doing a very fine job.

If only the few parents whom took umbrage had gone for home schooling..

read the ofsted report and a lot of other stuff school still has a big problem just getting them to do simple maths

and as i said a good head would have got every one onside BEFORE doing this

last thing that school needed was this

Originally Posted by rogermevans

read the ofsted report and a lot of other stuff school still has a big problem just getting them to do simple maths

and as i said a good head would have got every one onside BEFORE doing this

last thing that school needed was this

Agreed so let us hope that they can find some who is ready to be put through the meat grinder..or this school will close.

I have to say, some of the posts in this thread are funny, in a Greek Tragedy sort of funny....

I see a lot of hysterical, over the top posts about how this incident must have traumatised a school full of children. Posted by members who seem to have a definate view on the rights and wrongs of raising animals for food.... I would suggest that far too many parents are too chickensnot to actually teel their kids the truth of where their meat products come from. thus leaving it to people like the head teacher of a rural school to teach her pupil's a bit of lifes truth....

If people don't have the bottle to teach their kids about the unplesantness (in their view), then you forfit the right to throw strop when another adult does it for you....

[Flyboy]

Utter tosh. It is the parents' decision when and how this happens. Just as it is about any stage of life. It is the parents' decision to decide when a child is ready to learn about how life is created, just as much as it is to learn about how it ends.

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Originally Posted by rogermevans

read the ofsted report and a lot of other stuff school still has a big problem just getting them to do simple maths

and as i said a good head would have got every one onside BEFORE doing this

last thing that school needed was this

It's a little convenient, for some, to now suddenly put so much store in the results of an OFSTED report.

And you keep overlooking the reported facts that all the parents were told, at inception of the project, the options and potential outcomes - some only objected after the event, rather than in a timely manner.

You really don't like democracy (a decision was agreed by the School Council, the teachers, and the governing body) when it doesn't agree with your viewpoint, do you?

Originally Posted by Flyboy

Utter tosh. It is the parents' decision when and how this happens. Just as it is about any stage of life. It is the parents' decision to decide when a child is ready to learn about how life is created, just as much as it is to learn about how it ends.

Oh really ?

I think you give parents far too much credit for teaching their kids about certain aspects of life.... I remember my own parents encouraging me to read, play amd do many things from an early age that would broaden my horizons. Yet still they failed to educate me in any way about sex, or death. It wasn't until atleast 4th form (what is now called year 11) that I introduced to any information about reproduction or sex. And it wasn't until I was in the army, and seen the "Highway of Death" that I and my parents sat down and talked about death. Strangely, I doubt my own experiences in this regard is different from the vast majority of others who frequent these forums....

Originally Posted by Flyboy

Utter tosh. It is the parents' decision when and how this happens. Just as it is about any stage of life. It is the parents' decision to decide when a child is ready to learn about how life is created, just as much as it is to learn about how it ends.

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It's a little convenient, for some, to now suddenly put so much store in the results of an OFSTED report.

And you appear be deliberately conflating the OFSTED report for a small primary school with the issues of an OFSTED report on a very large Social Services department - you really like to muddy the waters when a discussion is not going your way, don't you?

If you are going to use that tack, I have noted that in previous posts you mention that you have a number of properties that you rent out - mmmm, I wonder if you are one of those Rachman-like landlords who ill-treat their tenants, and send heavies round to beat them up when they object? (or is it very simplistic to tar all landlords with the same brush as the worst, just like is it very simplistic (and deliberately misleading, imho) to tar all OFSTED reports with the same brush?)

[Angua]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

Utter tosh. It is the parents' decision when and how this happens. Just as it is about any stage of life. It is the parents' decision to decide when a child is ready to learn about how life is created, just as much as it is to learn about how it ends.

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It's a little convenient, for some, to now suddenly put so much store in the results of an OFSTED report.

Unfortunately life & death have a habit of not working to a convenient timetable to suit a parents idea of what a child is ready for. Many parents expect the teacher to teach children about life & death as it may not be something they are likely to have to deal with at a convenient time. Let alone something they may feel comfortable discussing or explaining to their children in the first place. Ignorance is not bliss.

Update

A head teacher who resigned after a row about the slaughter of a school lamb is to return to her post, Kent County Council has said.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Update

could have been a better headline ie
the butcher of lydd returns -just in time for easter lamb nosh up


Comedian Paul O'Grady, who lives near Ashford, had offered to buy Marcus.

But Mrs Charman went ahead with sending the animal to slaughter, which was part of a project to teach children about the food cycle.

so what did it teach the vegetarians

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Shall l tell you all something, in this life, now l am 58, and l leant' more at school, ie science, sex, smoking, how to beat up kids, everything and that was in the playground, and it brought me up a better person, respecting other peoples wishes, and nothing like the crap we hear today, health and safety wasn't heard of in my day, problems with religion wasn't heard of, you could walk down the street without the fear of being mugged by white or black guys, the school teachers were allowed to smack you round the ass if you were bad.

Nowadays, life has gone totally mad, you say one word against anyone, they take offence to it, you bow to certain religions or faiths, as you mustn't upset them, a teacher gets told off for doing something which is educational, and she gets a rollocking, health and safety has gone totally bonkers, what the hell is this world coming too.