1GB Cap Letter!!!!

[garyparson]

Oh dear, sounds like someone doesn't use broadband to it's full use

It is also like..

Here's your NTL Ferrari, we know you travel 100 miles to work but now you can only do 50, we know we take your money for 'broadband' but you'll have to walk the rest.

Sounds as bad as it is. I'll use it when and how I like untill they kick me off. Then I'll go to an ISP who treats broadband as advertised.

Originally Posted by purenuman

Oh dear! That NTL Ferrari must be sick..........
It's making a sound like somebody grasping at straws

Anyway seeing as these comparisons with cars seem quite popular in here I feel I must correct you

It is more like:

"Here's your NTL Ferrari, you can do 200mph (bandwidth).
Here's your full tank of petrol.
Please don't use more than a quarter of a tank every day (no cap just a guide).
If you do and you keep doing it AND your excessive use of the petrol stops others using the NTL Ferrari we will have to ask you not to use so much."

That's more like it and it doesn't sound so bad now

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Just out of curiosity. You know all these other companys that are doing proper uncapped broadband. How come they can do it so easily? Why are the likes of UK Online blowing NTL away with proper broadband?

[ian@huth]

One thing that you have to remember is that cable and xDSL use different technologies with different capabilities. What is possible on one may not be possible on the other with current infrastructure and financial constraints. This situation will change over time as will usage restrictions.

[jonifen]

Isn't UK Online subsidised (sp?) by the govt anyway? I know the govt has done a lot with the UK Online name with things like education and job training...

[SMHarman]

I thought they were two separate entities - one (the private ISP) being particularly annoyed that the govt had hijacked their name.

[jonifen]

Originally Posted by SMHarman

I thought they were two separate entities - one (the private ISP) being particularly annoyed that the govt had hijacked their name.

To be honest, I'm not sure...

Always thought they were the same.

[purenuman]

Originally Posted by garyparson

Oh dear, sounds like someone doesn't use broadband to it's full use

I do and don't like caps either but I'm realistic

And if I didn't what is so funny? I hardly think people who don't max out thier BB are missing something major

Originally Posted by garyparson

It is also like..

Here's your NTL Ferrari, we know you travel 100 miles to work but now you can only do 50, we know we take your money for 'broadband' but you'll have to walk the rest.

Sounds as bad as it is. I'll use it when and how I like untill they kick me off. Then I'll go to an ISP who treats broadband as advertised.

Nonsense!

Originally Posted by garyparson

Just out of curiosity. You know all these other companys that are doing proper uncapped broadband. How come they can do it so easily? Why are the likes of UK Online blowing NTL away with proper broadband?

Because they want customers and will soon change their tune when they have more customers and start to look at making money from it

And the 'NTL busting' speeds are only available in small areas...

[jonifen]

Originally Posted by purenuman

Because they want customers and will soon change their tune when they have more customers and start to look at making money from it

And the 'NTL busting' speeds are only available in small areas...

That'll be why NTL are trialling ADSL2 technology of speeds upto 18Mb then... tease the public into getting it, making it seem indispensible then whap a "usage policy" on it when they realise people are (ab)using it...

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by purenuman

I do and don't like caps either but I'm realistic

Same here.. BTW, I do also use broadband to it's full potential..

[purenuman]

Originally Posted by jonifen

That'll be why NTL are trialling ADSL2 technology of speeds upto 18Mb then... tease the public into getting it, making it seem indispensible then whap a "usage policy" on it when they realise people are (ab)using it...

Indispensible?

People want more speed, they are looking in to achieving it the easiest way (and therefore cheapest) and you think they shouldn't because they are going to try and make some money out of it?? Fancy that..... a business trying to make money.

Maybe it's a way to raise the available bandwidth and so end caps

[jonifen]

Originally Posted by purenuman

Indispensible?

I thought it was quite a good word for me at 6pm on a Monday

Originally Posted by purenuman

Maybe it's a way to raise the available bandwidth and so end caps

That'd be nice to see... looks more like a way to raise available bandwidth to give new customers an even better deal on?

Originally Posted by purenuman

Fancy that..... a business trying to make money.

Thats a new one on me!! This really happens?? (sorry, that sarcasm was induced by working for a company who seems to waste money on silly things then realises when they need to fix major issues, they have no money left to do it)

[purenuman]

Originally Posted by jonifen

That'd be nice to see... looks more like a way to raise available bandwidth to give new customers an even better deal on?

New customers benefit from limited introductory offers only......

I hardly think 18mb ADSL2 would be an introductory offer

[nate]

Originally Posted by purenuman

And the 'NTL busting' speeds are only available in small areas...

Small areas? Like..almost all of London, Edinburgh, Bristol, Manchester, Glasgow, Sheffield, Newcastle, Birmingham, Leeds, Reading..

Yeah, all those places out in the stix

http://www.ukonline.net/8000/llu_exchangelist.php

[garyparson]

My point is if companys like UK Online can offer it, why can't NTL?

All this capping goes against everything that broadband is about. There should be a new term like 'Capped broadband' that companys should have to use if they're going to shackle their customers.

I did a test on my girlfriends computer that's about to be shackled by BT and managed 60 gig in a month. Not bad when the cap is going to be set at 30 and I didn't run the same test on the other four computers linked to the network to get a real total. Now if only they set these caps to a reasonable ammount.

[purenuman]

Originally Posted by nate

Small areas? Like..almost all of London, Edinburgh, Bristol, Manchester, Glasgow, Sheffield, Newcastle, Birmingham, Leeds, Reading..

Yeah, all those places out in the stix

http://www.ukonline.net/8000/llu_exchangelist.php

I'm talking about the speeds that are higher than the speeds NTL offer that's why I said 'NTL busting' speeds and yes they are only available in small areas.

I live in Manchester fairly close to my local BT exchange and the fastest ADSL I can get is maybe (further tests required)2mb.....

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[nate]

Originally Posted by purenuman

I'm talking about the speeds that are higher than the speeds NTL offer that's why I said 'NTL busting' speeds and yes they are only available in small areas.

But 8mb IS faster than the max ntl do, I don't think you can deny that.
UKOnline claim 4.4million homes covered and at £29.99, i don't think you can really beat that.