Superhub : Superhub 2

[Harryn9000]

no lag atm but it only way i can get perfect connection go in router mode lags constantly

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Jazz

Are there any benefits of using the Super Hub 2 if using in Modem Mode?

I liked Kush's answer. Interpreting that, he means that the same results are delivered in modem mode with either SH model.

[Harryn9000]

anyone no the fifa server details for testing ping etc

it alright rang ea and got a case open to sort

[Kushan]

Does Fifa use hosted servers? I would have thought a player would be the host.

[linwelin]

Originally Posted by Jameseh

Did they require a new contract?

Just got a letter today with a new 12 month contract, That i did not know about, don't mind having a new contract but want more than a damn superhub!

Ok so it seems you have to take a new 12 month contract, but because i have had problems they have skipped that for me :P

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Originally Posted by Kushan

Does Fifa use hosted servers? I would have thought a player would be the host.

This is why i hate playing Fifa online, sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you are put with people from brazil!!!

[Harryn9000]

head to head uses p2p wheres as clubs uses ea own servers i was getting lag on both so i'm clueless what the problem hopefully new superhub fixes it

[jd001k0598]

Hello,

I have just signed to VM on their VIP package after 14 years with Sky. The main reason being the BB is awful and keeps dropping off. Been on to them countless times and seem to be getting nowhere fast. Streaming is a nightmare.

Anyway, I have taken the plunge and gone for the whole lot with VM. Prior to this thread I have been reading that the wireless signal is useless on the Super Hub. Is this really true. I have signed for the 100MB BB so I presume I will be on the Super Hub 2 which is getting a good review on here.

I do also download torrents which someone has said VM BB is not that good for. I don't really understand the download & upload speeds.

I have done a Speedtest.net and I am currently getting (with Sky) a download speed of 5.6Mb and an upload speed of 0.6Mb.

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Originally Posted by Jazz

Are there any benefits of using the Super Hub 2 if using in Modem Mode?

Can someone please explain to me what Modem mode is?

[SnoopZ]

Modem mode is just that, you use the modem part and not the router part which means you would need to buy your own router if you need to distribute your signal around your house.

If you don't get a SH2 then threaten to leave in your cooling off period and i am sure you will get 1 which has a far better wireless range.

[jd001k0598]

Originally Posted by SnoopZ

Modem mode is just that, you use the modem part and not the router part which means you would need to buy your own router if you need to distribute your signal around your house.

If you don't get a SH2 then threaten to leave in your cooling off period and i am sure you will get 1 which has a far better wireless range.

Thanks for that, now I understand. I might just check that I will be getting the Super Hub 2!

[StevenNT]

Originally Posted by jd001k0598

Can someone please explain to me what Modem mode is?

Basically it switches off the router functions and you can plug in a router of your choice instead.

But you should be getting a Superhub 2 as your a new 100Mbps customer so the need to do this should be less as the Superhub 2 has much better wireless than the Superhub 1

[jd001k0598]

Originally Posted by StevenNT

Basically it switches off the router functions and you can plug in a router of your choice instead.

But you should be getting a Superhub 2 as your a new 100Mbps customer so the need to do this should be less as the Superhub 2 has much better wireless than the Superhub 1

Thanks. Looking on the VM website it looks like any new customers will be getting the new Super Hub.

I was thinking I would be getting the one that everyone was complaining about.

Another question for anyone that can help me. I use the Solwise Home Plug but only have the 54Mps. Would it be best to upgrade these?

[General Maximus]

Originally Posted by jd001k0598

I don't really understand the download & upload speeds.

I have done a Speedtest.net and I am currently getting (with Sky) a download speed of 5.6Mb and an upload speed of 0.6Mb

the long and short of it is that you are going to be far better off with VM. Going from 5.6mbits up to 100mbits is a massive jump and to be honest you'll think you have died and gone to heaven. There are 4 things to take into consideration though so you don't get yourself in a fanny flap:

1) The technology VM use is completely different to all the other isps in the UK and in lamens terms you basically share part of your connection with everyone else in your area. Although you will probably gets close to 100mbits most of the time, you won't get full speed all the time, especially in the evenings and during the weekend so don't have aheart attack if your speed tests come back t half speed or something
2) VM operate a traffic management policy in the evening and weekends and if you download a specific amount of data (I think it is something like 5gb in 1 hour for us) then they temporarily reduce your speed in order to reduce congestion on the network
3) VM also do traffic shaping during the evening and weekends on p2p traffic. Basically they flag it as low priority on the network to make sure that everyone torrenting doesnt suck up the juice for everyone else. This means that even if you havent download anything at all, sometimes your torrents will crawl along at speeds which are so pathetic that you had might as well not bother downloading them (which is the whole point I think). That being said, that symtom only affects some people. Even with shaping in effect, I still have no probs downloading at 4-5MB/sec in the evening (40mbits) on torrents
4) Remember that just because you are on 100mbits doesnt mean you are always going to get 100mbits. Network congestion aside, the speed you download from stuff like torrents is entirely dependant on how fast your peers can upload. There are going to be some torrents which are hardly seeded and you might only get 200k on, others 2MB/sec and more popular stuff you might get full speed on if you use a private tracker. The nice thing though is that you have got more than enough juice to go around so you can get your torrents going and do other stuff at the same time.

Originally Posted by jd001k0598

Another question for anyone that can help me. I use the Solwise Home Plug but only have the 54Mps. Would it be best to upgrade these?

It would be wise. Although the plugs are 54mbits the devices will only get 25mbits give or take because of how they work so it is going to be a shame if you don't take advantage of your new 100mbits connection and let your wireless devices run at one quarter speed. Give shub2 a go and see how good the wireless is on it and if it doesn't quite make the mark then you can look at upgrading your home plugs. Just remember, the wireless adapters in all of your wireless devices (laptops/phone etc) will also need to be 802.11n if you want them to connect at the faster speeds.

[jd001k0598]

Originally Posted by General Maximus

the long and short of it is that you are going to be far better off with VM. Going from 5.6mbits up to 100mbits is a massive jump and to be honest you'll think you have died and gone to heaven. There are 4 things to take into consideration though so you don't get yourself in a fanny flap:

1) The technology VM use is completely different to all the other isps in the UK and in lamens terms you basically share part of your connection with everyone else in your area. Although you will probably gets close to 100mbits most of the time, you won't get full speed all the time, especially in the evenings and during the weekend so don't have aheart attack if your speed tests come back t half speed or something
2) VM operate a traffic management policy in the evening and weekends and if you download a specific amount of data (I think it is something like 5gb in 1 hour for us) then they temporarily reduce your speed in order to reduce congestion on the network
3) VM also do traffic shaping during the evening and weekends on p2p traffic. Basically they flag it as low priority on the network to make sure that everyone torrenting doesnt suck up the juice for everyone else. This means that even if you havent download anything at all, sometimes your torrents will crawl along at speeds which are so pathetic that you had might as well not bother downloading them (which is the whole point I think). That being said, that symtom only affects some people. Even with shaping in effect, I still have no probs downloading at 4-5MB/sec in the evening (40mbits) on torrents
4) Remember that just because you are on 100mbits doesnt mean you are always going to get 100mbits. Network congestion aside, the speed you download from stuff like torrents is entirely dependant on how fast your peers can upload. There are going to be some torrents which are hardly seeded and you might only get 200k on, others 2MB/sec and more popular stuff you might get full speed on if you use a private tracker. The nice thing though is that you have got more than enough juice to go around so you can get your torrents going and do other stuff at the same time.


It would be wise. Although the plugs are 54mbits the devices will only get 25mbits give or take because of how they work so it is going to be a shame if you don't take advantage of your new 100mbits connection and let your wireless devices run at one quarter speed. Give shub2 a go and see how good the wireless is on it and if it doesn't quite make the mark then you can look at upgrading your home plugs. Just remember, the wireless adapters in all of your wireless devices (laptops/phone etc) will also need to be 802.11n if you want them to connect at the faster speeds.

Thank-you so much for all this advice.

Like you have said I understand the torrents side of things. My main problem with Sky is the dropping off all the the time and the amount of time it sometimes takes to load a web page let alone anything else. I think I am going to give the wireless a try first before investing in the Homeplugs.

Another issue I have a the moment is whilst watching anything from Netflix, even in Super HD, the picture is crap. Is this anything to do with my Internet?

[Kushan]

I believe (but could be mistaken) that Netflix uses adaptive streaming to match your connection speed, so if the speed isn't good enough, it drops the quality on the fly. So with a new speedy connection, that shouldn't be an issue.

The service you get from Virgin can depend on your area. If your area is congested, it can be as bad as your connection is with Sky, but if you're in a good area then you'll be fine and get full speed most of the time (until you get traffic managed).

[General Maximus]

you should be alright I think. You get an allowance of 5gb/hour in the evening which should be more than enough for your tv viewing and even if you get stm'd it will only know you down to 70mbits which is still more than enough. Network congestion though is a completely different story and I am curious to see what it will be like over the weekend.