To Quote the council Rep "politically correct"

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Russ

You really can be arrogant sometimes. If "n o b o d y h a s s a i d o t h e r w i s e" then why are you going on about 'Winterval'? What your point? That it was 'changed to include other faiths'?

Christmas has always been celebrated by all UK councils. For 2 years Birmingham added other events at the time (starting before and finishing after the Christmas period) which did not detract from the festive celebration. Christmas banners were paraded about the city as normal.

Are you getting the message yet? Christmas was still Christmas in Birmingham for those 2 years. The only difference being was they also offered something for other faiths as well. If it was the political correctness that you're so obsessed about then they'd have ignored 'public outcry' and continued to call it 'Winterval' every year because, as I'm sure you know, "this country bends over backwards to accomodate foreigners" doesn't it?

There's no talking to you when you're like this.
everybody else knows what I am saying. and that I didn't say they wanted to cancel Christmas, only to include all cultures in that period with the word Winterval.

[Woolly One]

Originally Posted by Gary L

The change is being made because city council officials hope to create a more multi-cultural atmosphere in keeping with the city's mix of ethnic groups

That will be the Community Cohesion route -

In which it is ment to provide opportunities for different people to come together, to mix and to form communities of commonalities.

Originally Posted by Gary L

There's no talking to you when you're like this.
everybody else knows what I am saying. and that I didn't say they wanted to cancel Christmas, only to include all cultures in that period with the word Winterval.

Actually, what you said was

Originally Posted by Gary L

They could hardly cancel it. they just took the Christ out of it.

Which is different from "they didn't want to cancel Christmas" - your post could be read as if they wanted to cancel it, but couldn't....

So perhap "everybody else" didn't know what you were saying.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Actually, what you said was


Which is different from "they didn't want to cancel Christmas" - your post could be read as if they wanted to cancel it, but couldn't....

So perhap "everybody else" didn't know what you were saying.

"everybody else" doesn't include you.


Russ seems to think that Wintervalgate was to cancel Christmas. and because it still went ahead then it couldn't have ever happened and was a myth.

Originally Posted by Gary L

"everybody else" doesn't include you.


Russ seems to think that Wintervalgate was to cancel Christmas. and because it still went ahead then it couldn't have ever happened and was a myth.

Nice to see your all-inclusive pronoun has exceptions.....

Also nice to see you defending a religious celebration - keep up the good work.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Also nice to see you defending a religious celebration - keep up the good work.

I'm only defending the present side of it. can you imagine Christmas without presents?
that's what Christmas is all about!

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Also nice to see you defending a religious celebration - keep up the good work.

LOL.

[Flyboy]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Winterval was named so as not to offend Muslims. just like everything else is changed so as not to offend.

The change is being made because city council officials hope to create a more multi-cultural atmosphere in keeping with the city's mix of ethnic groups.

Nonsense, this is a story from over ten years ago, hardily being changed now is it. The name of the event was chosen to incorporate all festivals happening a the same time,. Christmas was featured heavily in the festival and there was no mention of using the term to reduce offence to non-Christians. Did you not read the article? It was from The Catholic Herald, if anyone has cause to complain they would, but they didn't find any, did they?

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Flyboy

Nonsense, this is a story from over ten years ago, hardily being changed now is it.

That was quoted from the time of the event.

Originally Posted by Gary L

That was quoted from the time of the event.

Gary's missing link

(and no, the word "the" was not omitted after "Gary's" ......)

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Gary's missing link

Even the bishop thinks council officials try too hard to be idiots

All the arguments in defence of this 'Winterval' have and always are, Christmas still went ahead, and they didn't cancel it though.

the point is we wouldn't let a council 'officials' cancel it anyway. they wanted to tone it down and bring bonfire night into the mix a bit so it wasn't just all about a Christian celebration on it's own.

[webcrawler2050]

Originally Posted by Gary L

Even the bishop thinks council officials try too hard to be idiots

aThe "pen pushers" that come up with this tosh should be sacked and maybe our tax's would go down a bit more. Maybe, the cash could go to some thing proper, like our boys in the front line. I am so sick to death of this country, I'm going to immegrate as soon as I can.

Originally Posted by Gary L

Even the bishop thinks council officials try too hard to be idiots

I'm sure you could show them, Gary.....

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

I'm sure you could show them, Gary.....

Too right.





I could show them you