Britain outside the EU

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Carth

It certainly wasn't Brexit that caused Covid to be the shitstorm of the century, no amount of extra paperwork, custom control or different passports stopped that decimating the UK (and Europe).

Covid was the big crunch in 'homeworking' which led to office closures and empty city centers, the same city centers devoid of customers for the entertainment, hotels, and food/drink industry. We still haven't fully recovered from that, and many of those jobs that were lost aren't coming back because Covid caused such a massive change in lifestyles (as did the smoking ban).

How many small businesses went bust because they couldn't work during Covid, and how many of the larger ones still haven't paid back those 'Covid loans'. Lots of potential wiped out in a couple of years, and would have happened whether we were IN or OUT.

…. And that just proves how useless governments are. I remember there was a debate within government on herd immunity but in the early days of Covid, they didn’t know what they were dealing with in the absence of a vaccine. So they settled on lockdown. OK - fair enough and be wiser for next time.

But the consequences of lockdown were foreseeable yet no measures were enacted to mitigate what would become the work from home craze. The effect on city centres, the businesses that would be affected and so on.

It needed strengthening of employers’ powers to force people back into the office. But then, and not without reason, people were saving hundreds even thousands on commuting costs. So, if work from home was to work, employers would need rights to enforce productivity measures.

And so on. Now we are Broken Britain.

[Carth]

. . and now we're into the fabulous Net Zero fixation and it's impacts on UK industry.

Steelworks and Oil Refineries are the biggies, but lets not forget all the smaller places where energy costs are crippling them into closure.

and:

Please ensure you don't leave electrical appliances on standby overnight and use water sparingly (while we commit to another 15 Data Centers)

We are proud to announce that AI has replaced another 42,817 jobs

Electric cars are the future, if you can't afford them you can use public transport (when not striking)

We need to become a cashless society because it's more secure and safer than getting your wallet/purse stolen . . oh really?

We need immigration to fill all the jobs (that we're in the process of getting rid of)

The only things growing in the UK are the 'Black Hole', Cutbacks, Depression and Disbelief.


. . . I'm off to buy another couple of bottles of Brandy

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Carth

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The only things growing in the UK are the 'Black Hole', Cutbacks, Depression and Disbelief.


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Don't forget the you-know-whats. Coming straight from the EU.

Originally Posted by Carth

. . and now we're into the fabulous Net Zero fixation and it's impacts on UK industry.

Steelworks and Oil Refineries are the biggies, but lets not forget all the smaller places where energy costs are crippling them into closure.

and:

Please ensure you don't leave electrical appliances on standby overnight and use water sparingly (while we commit to another 15 Data Centers)

We are proud to announce that AI has replaced another 42,817 jobs

Electric cars are the future, if you can't afford them you can use public transport (when not striking)

We need to become a cashless society because it's more secure and safer than getting your wallet/purse stolen . . oh really?

We need immigration to fill all the jobs (that we're in the process of getting rid of)

The only things growing in the UK are the 'Black Hole', Cutbacks, Depression and Disbelief.


. . . I'm off to buy another couple of bottles of Brandy

I would say you shouldn't drink when you're that miserable, but what the hell - go for it!

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

…. And that just proves how useless governments are. I remember there was a debate within government on herd immunity but in the early days of Covid, they didn’t know what they were dealing with in the absence of a vaccine. So they settled on lockdown. OK - fair enough and be wiser for next time.

But the consequences of lockdown were foreseeable yet no measures were enacted to mitigate what would become the work from home craze. The effect on city centres, the businesses that would be affected and so on.

It needed strengthening of employers’ powers to force people back into the office. But then, and not without reason, people were saving hundreds even thousands on commuting costs. So, if work from home was to work, employers would need rights to enforce productivity measures.

And so on. Now we are Broken Britain.

Emp[oyers didn't need any more powers. Contracts of employment state a work address and those employers who wanted staff back could easily enforce the contracts. Equally, staff who wanted to work from home are free to find another job where they can do so.

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Originally Posted by Carth

. . and now we're into the fabulous Net Zero fixation and it's impacts on UK industry.

Steelworks and Oil Refineries are the biggies, but lets not forget all the smaller places where energy costs are crippling them into closure.

and:

Please ensure you don't leave electrical appliances on standby overnight and use water sparingly (while we commit to another 15 Data Centers)

We are proud to announce that AI has replaced another 42,817 jobs

Electric cars are the future, if you can't afford them you can use public transport (when not striking)

We need to become a cashless society because it's more secure and safer than getting your wallet/purse stolen . . oh really?

We need immigration to fill all the jobs (that we're in the process of getting rid of)

The only things growing in the UK are the 'Black Hole', Cutbacks, Depression and Disbelief.


. . . I'm off to buy another couple of bottles of Brandy

Sorry, I can't attend your next uplifting party.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by vincerooney

so its the governments faults even though the rest of us said this would happen. that Brexit would fail and would cost us dearly. we told you this would happen.

it happened.

now instead of saying "you lot were right" its "well it would have worked but it was the government who got it wrong"

How do you know that? You don't. Like you didnt know brexit would be a success but you still voted for it and gambled our countries future. Seems to just be a continuing attempt at denial by everyone involved in brexit tbh.

Of course I know! The EU inspired legislation is still there. The Working Time Regulations, the GDPR, TUPE, all the stuff that has brought business to its needs. Illegal immigration is out of control because the government failed to do what was necessary about the ECHR, which is preventing deportations. And so on. All this is the fault of government malaise and disinterest, not of Brexit.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Sorry, I can't attend your next uplifting party.

No worries Andrew, I'll just ring and inform the caterers that there's now no need to cut the crusts off the sandwiches, or indeed cut them into triangles.

It's a shame you'll also miss out on the excellent pork pies, made with genuine pork no less, but sadly imported from countries where farmers breed pigs on land not designated for solar farms.

Originally Posted by Carth

No worries Andrew, I'll just ring and inform the caterers that there's now no need to cut the crusts off the sandwiches, or indeed cut them into triangles.

It's a shame you'll also miss out on the excellent pork pies, made with genuine pork no less, but sadly imported from countries where farmers breed pigs on land not designated for solar farms.

https://www.justfarmers.org/farmers/...edbd9c9a88103c

Patrick rears pigs, but to make ends meet he also farms 225 acres (91 hectares) growing wheat, barley, grass for hay, and industrial hemp for oil and gluten-free flour.

The two sides of the business help each other. The pig muck, for instance, reduces the need to use synthetic fertilisers on the crops. And the straw from the wheat, barley and hemp provides useful pig bedding...

… By the time Patrick took on the family farm in late 1990s he could see it couldn't survive on pigs alone, so he started to diversify. He used 46 acres (19 hectares) of his land to set up a 10.9 megawatt solar park. He now also makes an income from renting the grazing among the 43,000 solar panels to a local sheep farmer.