07-06-2013, 22:06
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Re: superhub 2
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Originally Posted by craigj2k12
So are you saying the SH2 responds to pings from TBB at lower priority, or that TBB send SH2 pings at low priority?
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Thought it had, but could well be wrong - sure someone in the know will be along soon. All I can say is that I've just spent a day in router mode and my TBB was very yellow, but speedtest, pingtest and my samknows box gave similar results to modem mode.
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07-06-2013, 22:09
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#602
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Re: superhub 2
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Originally Posted by craigj2k12
The hard evidence shows otherwise 
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Seems pretty good to me though in SH2 router mode, but i am no expert, but i think Seph knows alot more about this.
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07-06-2013, 22:10
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#603
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Re: superhub 2
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ
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Enginner did not check any Wireless channels? Could that possible solve the issues?
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07-06-2013, 22:23
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#604
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Re: superhub 2
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Originally Posted by MacmillaN
Enginner did not check any Wireless channels? Could that possible solve the issues?
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It'll let you see which channels are less congested. I check regularly as I don't set the channel to automatic.
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rim
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08-06-2013, 03:22
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Re: superhub 2
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Originally Posted by craigj2k12
So are you saying the SH2 responds to pings from TBB at lower priority, or that TBB send SH2 pings at low priority?
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He may not want to say that, but I will!  However if/when Seph re-engages he'll no doubt quite correctly point out that he conversely does not currently experience that level of jitter in RouterMode.
I believe that may be explained and dependent on combination of T patch level and concurrent utilisation/load on DOCSIS chipset and thus the overhead of subsequent line conditioning on individual connections.
De-prioritising ICMP/traffic targeted specifically at a router rather than "beyond it" is after all not uncommon.
Like no doubt yourself and many others I don't rely on a single diagnostic either - I run other BQM/ping plotters in parallel in addition to SK monitors (I use the plural deliberately as perversely for a short period over last week or so I am literally running two seperate SK units in parallel!  )
That's in addition to also monitoring typically a minimum of 2 or 3 other CMTS subscribers TBB/BQM monitors remotely in my Brighton cluster.
Just for your further amusement, early in May I was stress testing my first SH2(yes I'm now on my second) by saturating my upstream (that I knew had an open utilisation fault on both d/s & u/s) with following colourful result:
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08-06-2013, 10:24
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#606
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Re: superhub 2
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08-06-2013, 12:24
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Re: superhub 2
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
By command from the Horse:
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Mine's improving believe it or believe it not!
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08-06-2013, 14:44
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#608
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Re: superhub 2
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
By command from the Horse:

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Do you think you have changed some settings in the SH2 that may account from your extremely rare normal looking graph?
I would be grateful if you're able to list what is enabled and disabled so i could possibly try and replicate your result.
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08-06-2013, 14:55
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Re: superhub 2
FIREWALL
Firewall Disabled
Firewall Protection Low
Port Scan Detection Disabled
IP Flood Detection Disabled
IPSec Pass-Through Enabled
PPTP Pass-Through Enabled
Multicast Pass-Through Enabled
No other security settings changed from default.
Wireless Band Settings
2.4GHz Enabled
5GHz Enabled
everything else default. WPS Disabled.
UPnP Disabled
If I turn fireqwall on, it makes no difference.
Good luck.
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08-06-2013, 14:58
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Re: superhub 2
Thanks for your help, i will change that and see what happens but i don't expect any change.
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08-06-2013, 17:17
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#611
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Re: superhub 2
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ
Thanks for your help, i will change that and see what happens but i don't expect any change.
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Well it didn't make any difference.
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08-06-2013, 17:22
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Re: superhub 2
Didn't expect it would. As I've said before, VM have offered me no explanation on the trial forum as to whay I have this TBB report in router mode. If there was a neighbour with a SH2 .....
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08-06-2013, 17:43
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#613
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Re: superhub 2
I wish they would respond as something is clearly happening, although as it appears it isn't affecting my connection i guess it isn't a priority.
My computer was switched off from around 21:45 till 1pm and it still spikes on the graph.
As soon as i turned the computer on going by the graph the maximum latency shoots right up and even reports some packet loss, however from doing a ping test i am clearly not getting any issues that i can tell.
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08-06-2013, 19:28
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#614
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Re: superhub 2
I've seen this behaviour before, it happens on some Draytek routers as well due to the ICMP requests being put on a lower priority. That's why the connection is unaffected.
Here's an example of what I mean (from my work connection, which is not VM):
Looks bad, but the connection is actually fine.
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08-06-2013, 19:55
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#615
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Re: superhub 2
I guess changing the ICMP requests priority would need a firmware update and having them higher or lower would that cause an issue somewhere?
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