Britain outside the EU

[Russ]

Things are going so well during this “Golden Age for Britain”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...XGZssqYkbvGIA#

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Russ

Things are going so well during this “Golden Age for Britain”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...XGZssqYkbvGIA#

Well I haven’t noticed any difference to my life.

But Starmer’s storm troopers will ensure you suffer.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Well I haven’t noticed any difference to my life

That's up there with, "I don't know anyone who has ever been polled!"

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Russ

Things are going so well during this “Golden Age for Britain”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...XGZssqYkbvGIA#

Here's the damage in a single take:

[1andrew1]

The CEO of Waterstones, James Daunt, today highlighted the main problem the successful British retailer faces.

Daunt said pay inflation was “really significant” for the business, but backed the UK government’s move to increase national insurance costs, which many executives in the retail and consumer industry sectors have opposed.

Instead, he said the most significant issue for Waterstones in the UK was Brexit: “It remains the biggest pain, adds to the cost and complexity, and made our labour situation worse.”

https://www.ft.com/content/b719ade0-...e-8b5c5422c6a2

[1andrew1]

I see that Andy Wigmore and Arron Banks have failed to get visas to the USA. Can't think why, comrades!

Who

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Paul

Who

Leave.EU backer, author of "The Bad Boys of Brexit", with a fondness after the invasion of the Crimea for meetings at the Russian embassy.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/29/w...ron-banks.html

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by ianch99

The con job sold to the British public was off the chart, remarkable in how so many were persuaded to vote against their best interests. Of course, we always get: "yes but ... sovereignty" wheeled out but you can't eat sovereignty or go swimming in it

Oh, dear, you really are indoctrinated, aren’t you? You must learn to get over the people’s decision because it will make you ill.

Badenoch has already admitted that the Conservative government did nothing to tap into the benefits that could be exploited under Brexit. That ‘bonfire of regulations’ never got done, did it? That would have been a start. Now we are stuck with those EU rules for another 4.5 years because Starmer’s government will do nothing.

The two main parties never learn, do they? Reform UK is becoming more popular with both Conservative and Labour voters because the ‘natural parties of government’ are too arrogant and refuse to engage sensibly on public concerns. But just to be sure, they try to belittle Reform UK and try to load the narrative to Reform’s disadvantage. This is a mistake, because Reform UK understand and are speaking the language of normal patriotic people who love Britain.

The two main parties are due another nasty ‘surprise’ at the next General Election. And predictably, the BBC will be predicting on election day that it’s a close call between Labour and the Conservatives. And again, like on the Brexit vote, they will have got it wrong and call it ‘a major upset and complete surprise’ or words to that effect.

It’s like all the UK’s establishment figures have a complete mental block on these matters. Labour is lost, possibly forever, and the Conservatives will have a huge battle on their hands in defending as many of their seats as they can. Reform UK is now in with a chance, thanks to the collective blind spot which is so clear to the rest of us.

Make the most of this appalling government while you can. Britain will rise from the ashes of their failure.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Oh, dear, you really are indoctrinated, aren’t you? You must learn to get over the people’s decision because it will make you ill.

I think what makes most people ill is trade with EU countries is down 27% without it being taken up elsewhere. Also how farmers’ fields have had fruit and veg go to rot because the annual EU migrants haven’t been able to over to pick it.

Also the fact no returns-policy was set in place in Boris’ “oven ready deal” for migrants which makes it harder for us to send back the failed asylum seekers.

How about the NHS which is still waiting for it’s £350m a week?

Perhaps too is the fact people like my daughter who graduates from Uni this year has her international options massively limited and makes it harder for her to further study or work abroad.

Or maybe what makes us ill is the fact so many of those who voted Leave refuse to admit they were sold a lie and have not experienced one single legitimate benefit of Brexit.

JFYI, In the 6 years between 2016 & 2022, the NHS budget increased by roughly £35 Billion, which is about £675m per week.

[Russ]

So no sign of the promised extra £350m that should have kicked in from 2020.

Well it appears that between 2020 & 2021, it increased by over £900m per week.
However a large part of that has basically been classed as "extra spending due to covid".

Excluding covid, its also incrceased by £440m per week between 2022 & 2023 (so more than the fabled 350).

The only thing you can factually state is its increased by more £350m per week since 2016 (or indeed, since 2020).
Its impossible to define "extra" as there is no way to know what the budget would have been, its simply increased.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Russ

So no sign of the promised extra £350m that should have kicked in from 2020.

I mean, you’re obviously deranged.

I can’t wait until 2029, when the country is totally in the shitter, and you’ve got no one to blame but your own team. No doubt ideological gymnastics worthy of Olga Corbett will ensue.

[Russ]

Originally Posted by Paul

Well it appears that between 2020 & 2021, it increased by over £900m per week.
However a large part of that has basically been classed as "extra spending due to covid".

Excluding covid, its also incrceased by £440m per week between 2022 & 2023 (so more than the fabled 350).

The only thing you can factually state is its increased by more £350m per week since 2016 (or indeed, since 2020).
Its impossible to define "extra" as there is no way to know what the budget would have been, its simply increased.

Yet there’s still nothing to suggest any of that spending was due to Brexit. Such relative increases in spending have historically been nothing new:

https://ukandeu.ac.uk/what-has-brexi...t-for-the-nhs/

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Originally Posted by Pierre

I mean, you’re obviously deranged.

I can’t wait until 2029, when the country is totally in the shitter, and you’ve got no one to blame but your own team. No doubt ideological gymnastics worthy of Olga Corbett will ensue.

Seriously, grow up.