UK unemployment increases to 2.64m

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Since the puppets have got in, how many cuts has ther been, how many businesses have gone down the plug hole, how many people have been made redundant - this is down to government cut backs,

Employment has gone up to the highest in 17 years.

Whose fault is that, or l do l live in cuckoo land.

I agree with you Arthur. even if nobody else does.

I can't see Dave lasting long to be honest. whether that will be him stepping down of his own accord or what.

Two minds thinking as none.

Originally Posted by Gary L

I agree with you Arthur. even if nobody else does.

I can't see Dave lasting long to be honest. whether that will be him stepping down of his own accord or what.

and the alternative to dave would be .......

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by martyh

and the alternative to dave would be .......

I was thinking of Hugh?

Originally Posted by Gary L

I was thinking of Hugh?

there's an idea ,that would realy upset Arthur

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Since the puppets have got in, how many cuts has ther been, how many businesses have gone down the plug hole, how many people have been made redundant - this is down to government cut backs,

Employment has gone up to the highest in 17 years.

Whose fault is that, or l do l live in cuckoo land.

This is how the economy would have looked over the last decade if it weren't for a debt bubble and Labour employing a million people on the public purse. This is how the UK economy looks when the government is not borrowing relentlessly from the next generation to buy votes.

The cuts are, actually, going to take the state back to where it was in the mid 2000's, though of course this has been explained to you more than once.

The only conclusion is that you don't have the wit to think for yourself and are quite happy to believe what the red tops, specifically The Mirror, preaches at you.

This government is doing a lot of things wrong, it doesn't change that thanks to the utter joke the previous Labour government were with the economy, which I'm sure a man of your age knows is par for the course for Labour, whomever was in power would have been cutting. Labour's plan had almost identical cuts to the current government's, a minimal difference.

Incidentally while you're ranting away merrily government expenditure actually increased in both nominal and real terms compared to last year, but carry on, it's not like facts or reality have bothered you in the past so they're not likely to start now.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Topshop doesn't evade tax.

It's owner Phillip Green does

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

The government doesn't buy/lease the rolling stock the train service operating companies do.

It is increasingly interfering in the process of buying rolling stock, plus it effectly provides the money

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

In realistic terms Cameron and his puppets don't give a monkeys for the actual working class people of this country.

They are tearing the country to pieces, and at this time of year, people cannot spend money, hight street shops are closing, one shop today that my wife was in, she said the shop was empty of stock as the head office cannot bring in new stock as suppliers have run out.

This is what is happening, people can not longer afford to buy goods, it shocking and yet the puppets bring out these crazy ideas of giving money to daft idea like ' desperate families' plus in todays The Sun (Tory) states that Ken Clarke has scrapped £1.5 BILLION in fines. This is how mad the Puppets are.

The sooner they call a general election the better

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

The sooner they call a general election the better

That would be great on condition that Labour are required to actually give policies during the campaign rather than do what has characterised their time in opposition so far and oppose everything the government do without proposing any viable alternatives.

Lib Dems should get wiped out, which is good as they were never fit to play a roll in government as they promised a raft of things they could never deliver, Miliband get shown up as the charmless, vacuous, champagne socialist Primrose Hill boy that he is, and Cameron and Co look like the least worst of the 3 options by quite some distance.

Of course this may not matter. If Labour give enough BS people, some of whom post here, will merrily suck it up, then be demanding younger generations both pay off the ton of debt Labour chalked up bribing them for their votes while also paying them massive prices for housing and paying tons of tax for debt interest and their pensions.

You do know how small the difference between the Darling plan and the Osborne one would have been so far in terms of public spending cuts? Not much. The Balls plan is, well, balls plucked out of fantasy land by the man who, along with Calamity Brown, destroyed the UK economy.

Originally Posted by Gary L

I was thinking of Hugh?

I feel dirty now....

(and not in a good way )

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry

It's owner Phillip Green does

It is increasingly interfering in the process of buying rolling stock, plus it effectly provides the money

The sooner they call a general election the better

They can't, due to the Fixed Term Parliament Act

How often are general elections held?

The date of the next general election is set at 7 May 2015 after the Fixed Term Parliament Act was passed on 15 September 2011.

The act provides for general elections to be held on the first Thursday in May every five years. There are two provisions that trigger an election other than at five year intervals.

A motion of no confidence is passed in Her Majesty's Government by a simple majority and 14 days elapses without the House passing a confidence motion in any new Government formed
A motion for a general election is agreed by two thirds of the total number of seats in the Commons including vacant seats (currently 434 out of 650)
Previous to this act, the duration of a Parliament was set at five years, although many were dissolved before that, at the*request of the Prime Minister to the Queen.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Hugh

I feel dirty now....

I've already got a boyfriend, thanks

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by Hugh

I feel dirty now....

(and not in a good way )

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They can't, due to the Fixed Term Parliament Act

So even if let say 14 Lib Dems leave the their party (enough for this government to lose its majority) and either join another party or set up their own party, will this government still not call a general election

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

That would be great on condition that Labour are required to actually give policies during the campaign rather than do what has characterised their time in opposition so far and oppose everything the government do without proposing any viable alternatives.

Lib Dems should get wiped out, which is good as they were never fit to play a roll in government as they promised a raft of things they could never deliver, Miliband get shown up as the charmless, vacuous, champagne socialist Primrose Hill boy that he is, and Cameron and Co look like the least worst of the 3 options by quite some distance.

Of course this may not matter. If Labour give enough BS people, some of whom post here, will merrily suck it up, then be demanding younger generations both pay off the ton of debt Labour chalked up bribing them for their votes while also paying them massive prices for housing and paying tons of tax for debt interest and their pensions.

You do know how small the difference between the Darling plan and the Osborne one would have been so far in terms of public spending cuts? Not much. The Balls plan is, well, balls plucked out of fantasy land by the man who, along with Calamity Brown, destroyed the UK economy.

Acually, I feel that we should vote for none of those three main parties and teach them a lesson by voting for other parties

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

So even if let say 14 Lib Dems leave the their party (enough for this government to lose its majority) and either join another party or set up their own party, will this government still not call a general election

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Acually, I feel that we should vote for none of those three main parties and teach them a lesson by voting for other parties

And what party would you suggest as here is a link for you to discover and ponder your next political vote.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...itical_Parties

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

So even if let say 14 Lib Dems leave the their party (enough for this government to lose its majority) and either join another party or set up their own party, will this government still not call a general election

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Acually, I feel that we should vote for none of those three main parties and teach them a lesson by voting for other parties

Thats a very good idea the main political parties all offer more of the same the arguments they have in the westminster village are largely synthetic,they all believe in globalisation for instance,they all beileved also in light touch regulation for banks ,i remember George Osbourne calling for even lighter regulation in opposition around 2007 before the banks went belly up.

When it comes to smaller parties its always amazed me if we are such a Euro-Sceptic country that UKIP cannot get a single MP elected you would think the uk would be very open to a few UKIP MPs in parliament but no.

Whilst the uk continues to vote for more of the same thats exactly what it will get.

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[Arthurgray50@blu]

To all those knockers of me, answer the biggest question of all - how are you going to solve the problem, or do we have a lot of Tory lovers on this forum, who only care about themself.

I don't give a monkey's who runs this country, but l get sick to death each day reading on the tv or in the papers, that unemployment is rising, companies are closing down, contracts being sold to foreign companies at the expense of the British workforce.

While the Muppet's can find billions to fund crazy schemes that won't work, There might be members out there that have great jobs and great pay packets and enjoy living under the current situation, but all those billions could be spent on something that will bring back the dignity that this country has lost.

I spoke with a builder the other day and he says that the British builders are losing there jobs everyday due to cutbacks.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

To all those knockers of me, answer the biggest question of all - how are you going to solve the problem, or do we have a lot of Tory lovers on this forum, who only care about themself.

I don't give a monkey's who runs this country, but l get sick to death each day reading on the tv or in the papers, that unemployment is rising, companies are closing down, contracts being sold to foreign companies at the expense of the British workforce.

While the Muppet's can find billions to fund crazy schemes that won't work, There might be members out there that have great jobs and great pay packets and enjoy living under the current situation, but all those billions could be spent on something that will bring back the dignity that this country has lost.

I spoke with a builder the other day and he says that the British builders are losing there jobs everyday due to cutbacks.

Thats a staggering claim you have just made about most forum members being Tory voters who only care about themselves as first of all most forum members are polite and very helpful and l suspect also that a considerable amount cannot stand the Tories but whoever they vote for is their own personal business and nobody elses at the end of the day.