Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
15-06-2011, 21:05
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Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
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Originally Posted by KenK
He has already - #22.
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15-06-2011, 21:35
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Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq
Closer to 7 months now.
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OK. And in another thread on here, Masque tells us that in a few weeks or so we should have modem mode.
(my underlining) - well at least they're maybe going to do something about it, sometime, when it suits them. I guess their own target date of late May 2011 has been missed. In the meantime, you'll just have to put up with it.
Those who remember the old days of ntl: running the cable system in the UK will no doubt remember the phrase "COMING SOON!"
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15-06-2011, 21:45
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Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
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Originally Posted by TJS
This is to the same IP address you did on your pingplotter graph; I had to use a different tool though as i am on OSX so i'm not sure how useful this is to you

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i really really envy u lol
i can only dream of 0% packetloss
btw what settings have u disabled on the superhub to get those results?
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15-06-2011, 21:52
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Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
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Originally Posted by markie1966
i really really envy u lol
i can only dream of 0% packetloss
btw what settings have u disabled on the superhub to get those results?
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16-06-2011, 00:09
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Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
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Originally Posted by KenK
Those who remember the old days of ntl: running the cable system in the UK will no doubt remember the phrase "COMING SOON!"
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Coming soon:
Giving customers back the choice of how they want to use their internet connection, something everyone else has been taking for granted for decades.
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16-06-2011, 07:40
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Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
On the question of user choice, since Stephen has mentioned the BT HomeHub, it is worth pointing out that not only can you use your own router, you can substitute your own VDSL2 modem for BT Infinity.
VM, on the other hand, have been so unwise as to force its users down a lame route. This is what angers me more than the lameness of that wretched SH itself.
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16-06-2011, 11:29
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Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
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Originally Posted by markie1966
i really really envy u lol
i can only dream of 0% packetloss
btw what settings have u disabled on the superhub to get those results?
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Just the firewall + IP flood detection; everything else is default
Heres another one from this morning.
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There is a windows version of the plotting software that I am using availible for download to;
http://www.visualroute.com/download.html
do a trace using that so we can compare easier 
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4 Servers picked completely at random; just to show the average latencies i get using a superhub on the 50 mb package

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16-06-2011, 12:05
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Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
SuperHub, Firewall + IP Flood Detection disabled.
Virgin 100MB...
Be* ~22MB LLU...
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16-06-2011, 12:32
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Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
I just dont wanna give up my super low pings when switching to superhub ;-(
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16-06-2011, 12:34
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Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
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Originally Posted by internetuser
I just dont wanna give up my super low pings when switching to superhub ;-(
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look up a bit to my post; post 52
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16-06-2011, 12:39
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Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
Can anyone posting screenshots please use attachments rather than large images. Thanks.
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16-06-2011, 12:40
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Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
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Originally Posted by imranm
SuperHub, Firewall + IP Flood Detection disabled.
Virgin 100MB...
Be* ~22MB LLU...

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Could you re-do those using this software
http://download.visualware.com/pub/vr/vrle.exe
It would be easier to compare to the graphs I have put up and seems to be easier to read
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16-06-2011, 12:40
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Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
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Originally Posted by TJS
look up a bit to my post; post 52 
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Thats all good an everything (well, the servers were hardly full :-P )
But a lot of people say the SH adds to latency, even on wired by about 10ms ;-(
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16-06-2011, 12:42
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Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
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Originally Posted by internetuser
Thats all good an everything (well, the servers were hardly full :-P )
But a lot of people say the SH adds to latency, even on wired by about 10ms ;-(
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Any tests you want me to try so we can compare?
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16-06-2011, 12:43
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Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
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Originally Posted by TJS
Any tests you want me to try so we can compare? 
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