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ethan103 13-06-2011 21:47

Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
 
Is there any explanation why the SuperHub is casuing all the problems like latency issues?

I mean the old Modem works great so how did VM manage to do so bad with the SH?

Skie 13-06-2011 22:18

Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
 
Doubt you will every really find out the full truth of the matter. Most VM staff here wont have been involved with the things 'birth' and even if they were I doubt you would get the full details anyway because its all confidential (and probably embarrassing :p )

A good guess is that they simply went with the cheapest thing that ticked a few of the marketing teams boxes. They certainly rushed it out unfinished.

ethan103 13-06-2011 22:25

Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skie (Post 35257299)
Doubt you will every really find out the full truth of the matter. Most VM staff here wont have been involved with the things 'birth' and even if they were I doubt you would get the full details anyway because its all confidential (and probably embarrassing :p )

A good guess is that they simply went with the cheapest thing that ticked a few of the marketing teams boxes. They certainly rushed it out unfinished.

LoL,

Idk, would it have been hard for VM to use the old modem anyway as I hear it does 200 Mb anyway so 100 Mb would be easy to handle...


Or perhaps have a modfied version of it within the Superhub...all it is i guess is wireless linked with the modem...

Fspiders 14-06-2011 08:49

Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
 
Well the modem part of the superhub works just fine.

After months of frustration I finally gave in on the wireless side of the hub and now use it as a modem for my Belkin wireless router. Not had a single drop out for weeks compared to the 4 or 5 times an hour using the hub.

Regards.

Stephen 14-06-2011 09:41

Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
 
There are some issues with the superhub for some customers but not everyone is affected.

I for one have brilliant wireless speeds and connection from it and its worked great for over 7 months.

Some think its the type of kit on the UBR that causes problems for some connections. However that doesn't explain the wirless problems. Some people have gotten the wireless to be stable simply by changing some of the settings within the SH.

ethan103 14-06-2011 15:52

Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35257478)
There are some issues with the superhub for some customers but not everyone is affected.

I for one have brilliant wireless speeds and connection from it and its worked great for over 7 months.

Some think its the type of kit on the UBR that causes problems for some connections. However that doesn't explain the wirless problems. Some people have gotten the wireless to be stable simply by changing some of the settings within the SH.


Well my set up is wired as I have no need for wireless.

Is the SuperHub providing the same ping times in wired setups as the old VMNG300?

Stephen 14-06-2011 15:53

Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
 
My pings are usually between 15-40ms wired and wireless.

TJS 14-06-2011 16:30

Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
 
Works fine for me :)

consistently get around 13 - 20 ms ping on speedtest.net; on online games i can get as low as 5 - 8 ms pings to servers; I've seen as low as 4 ms on half life 2 death match before :)

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Skie 14-06-2011 17:59

Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
 
I was averaging 30ms with the superhub on my regular TF2 server. Went to the VMNG300 and now average 15ms.

Peter_ 14-06-2011 18:06

Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
 
Well I get this on my connection from 2 different servers.

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ethan103 14-06-2011 19:10

Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
 
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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35257795)


Hmm, with your SuperHub, you get almost double the latency on the Manchester Server and almost 1/3 more on the Birmingham one than me :confused:

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Were they better with the VMNG300???

markie1966 14-06-2011 20:03

Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TJS (Post 35257711)
Works fine for me :)

consistently get around 13 - 20 ms ping on speedtest.net; on online games i can get as low as 5 - 8 ms pings to servers; I've seen as low as 4 ms on half life 2 death match before :)

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u jammy **** (joking)

everytime i play games these days i get told to clear off cos of the packets loss

really wish i hadnt upgraded to the superhub

i was getting better ping with no packet loss when i was on 10mb

TJS 14-06-2011 20:15

Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
 
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Originally Posted by markie1966 (Post 35257839)
u jammy **** (joking)

everytime i play games these days i get told to clear off cos of the packets loss

really wish i hadnt upgraded to the superhub

i was getting better ping with no packet loss when i was on 10mb

Have you tried phoning virgin to report lag in your area? (no idea what difference that will make)

KenK 14-06-2011 20:39

Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skie (Post 35257299)
A good guess is that they simply went with the cheapest thing that ticked a few of the marketing teams boxes.

:tu: Yes, it would all be about money and marketing, not about customer service.

Other guesses: they couldn't agree a cheap-enough or short-enough new contract with the modem-only supplier; and they wanted a device they could call a hub, to compete with BT's advertising.
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Originally Posted by Skie (Post 35257299)
They certainly rushed it out unfinished.

... and still got people to pay for it ...

markie1966 14-06-2011 20:46

Re: Can Someone Explain WHY the SuperHub is so...bad?
 
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yep iv tried a few times

posted on the forums....engineers have visited....shown them screenshots of winmtr and tbb showing packetsloss and been fobbed off with the usual high utilisation...or another excuse

got to the point where i couldnt be arsed playing games cos its useless


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