UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal
11-12-2020, 17:33
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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My fear all along is the economic suffering people will endure and it'll be those that least afford it that bare the brunt, "reclaiming sovereignty" isn't worth losing your job or home over, even that smug ponce rees mogg said it'll take fifty years to feel the economic benefit, who other than non tax paying millionaires can afford to wait that long
Exactly, best get out of Nato then
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Why? The issue is the regulations and directives that the EU can impose. NATO can't do that. Why do some of you Remainers take such a daft line?
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11-12-2020, 17:42
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
It's all they've got left, sometimes it's like being stuck in an elevator with that awful music looping endlessly 
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11-12-2020, 17:55
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Why? The issue is the regulations and directives that the EU can impose. NATO can't do that. Why do some of you Remainers take such a daft line?
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Outvoted just 2% of the time, Seph.
We got our way 98% of the time over a bigger region before. Now we allegedly will get 100% of our way over a far smaller area that doesn't even include one of the four nations and may not include another next year! Well, at least we've got our EU-made black passports to crow about.
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11-12-2020, 18:04
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Outvoted just 2% of the time, Seph.
We got our way 98% of the time over a bigger region before. Now we allegedly will get 100% of our way over a far smaller area that doesn't even include one of the four nations and may not include another next year! Well, at least we've got our EU-made black passports to crow about. |
1. There isn't going to be a Scottish referendum next year.
2. Even if there were, and it voted for Scoxit, the present debacle gives a clue how much longer it might take to unpick a 300 year old union.
oh, and 3. The Swiss constitution is fundamentally different to just about anything else, anywhere in the world. It's not a good analogy for any part of our political process.
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11-12-2020, 18:26
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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1. There isn't going to be a Scottish referendum next year.
2. Even if there were, and it voted for Scoxit, the present debacle gives a clue how much longer it might take to unpick a 300 year old union.
oh, and 3. The Swiss constitution is fundamentally different to just about anything else, anywhere in the world. It's not a good analogy for any part of our political process.
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Is point 1 definitely ruled out? If the SNP won a majority next year, it would be hard to refuse their request for another once-in-a-lifetime referendum?
I take your point on point 2.
No analogy there on point 3. I pointed out how referendums are run in a nation vastly more experienced at running them than ours in reply to Pierre describing the Brexit referendum as "That is proper democracy at work."
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11-12-2020, 18:41
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
Re Scotland, for now all we have to go on are repeated statements that HMG intends to honour the SNP’s statement that the 2014 referendum was a “once in a generation, if not once in a lifetime” event, even if the SNP is trying very hard to forget.
However, even if that were to change, there wouldn’t be enough legislative time to devise and run a referendum after the elections in May. So no, there absolutely won’t be a referendum next year, even if the SNP wins an outright majority of Holyrood seats on an outright majority of votes.
But we digress.
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11-12-2020, 19:11
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
Interesting analysis. Even more reason for Conservative supporters to want a deal
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Boris Johnson’s ‘red wall’ facing blow from no-deal Brexit and Covid
Areas in the north of England and Midlands that backed Boris Johnson’s Conservatives at last year’s election are among areas of Britain with the highest share of jobs in sectors most at risk from the combined impact of a no-deal Brexit and the Covid-19 pandemic.
According to a Financial Times analysis of data from the Office for National Statistics, 17 so-called “red wall” constituencies — traditional Labour voting seats such as Scunthorpe won by the Tories in the 2019 election — are in the top 20 per cent of areas with job markets most reliant on sectors severely at risk over the next two years.
Although the figures vary greatly across different neighbourhoods, the data underline how a no-deal Brexit could make it harder for Mr Johnson to deliver on his pledge to level up more deprived parts of the UK.
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https://www.ft.com/content/f530e1b6-...e-245848449ad4
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11-12-2020, 19:28
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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The European Parliament is a puppet parliament. That doesn't even have the power to propose legislation, only rubber stamp it, from the real power in the EU - the commission.
Tell me, who voted for Von der Leyen? did you?
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tell us who voted for Dominic Cummings because until recently he was running the show here
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11-12-2020, 19:30
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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tell us who voted for Dominic Cummings because until recently he was running the show here
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11-12-2020, 19:31
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...eyen-27gkstp57
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The Royal Navy is prepared to deploy four patrol boats to stop and even impound French fishing vessels if they illegally enter the English Channel after a no-deal Brexit.
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4 boats ?!! LOL
We have 11000 miles of coastline, 4 boats won't quite cover it !
Think we should also reform the Home Guard. Capt. Mainwaring would be in his element
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11-12-2020, 19:34
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Forever the optimist... 
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11-12-2020, 19:36
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Interesting analysis. Even more reason for Conservative supporters to want a deal
https://www.ft.com/content/f530e1b6-...e-245848449ad4
According to a Financial Times analysis of data from the Office for National Statistics, 17 so-called “red wall” constituencies — traditional Labour voting seats such as Scunthorpe won by the Tories in the 2019 election — are in the top 20 per cent of areas with job markets most reliant on sectors severely at risk over the next two years. |
Crikey, I'm glad you found that Andrew otherwise I'd have never known we were heading for disaster here . . oh hang on, it's the FT analysis lot trying to be clever again, as you were folks
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11-12-2020, 19:37
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Why would we protecting the coastline instead of the fishing grounds?
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11-12-2020, 19:40
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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tell us who voted for Dominic Cummings because until recently he was running the show here
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No, no he wasn’t.
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11-12-2020, 19:41
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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No, no he wasn’t.
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he was and lots of tory mps were complaining he had to much power
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