High pings to London server.
17-04-2006, 21:10
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Re: High pings to London server.
Try another traceroute 
Seems a bit 'sudden' that increase to be congestion on the ntl side.
It's also a bit too stable.
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17-04-2006, 21:13
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Re: High pings to London server.
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Originally Posted by James Henry
Are you sure that you're the only person using the connection at the time these were taken?
I see a router in there before the ntl network so isn't it possible that one of your family is uploading or downloading?
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My son was away an dwhen that was taken my daughter was asleep in bed we can all play CS at once when the network is at its best and have next to no lag pinging on that server less than 30ms. We have already done this and those we was playing against thaought NTl was great to manage the three of us playing but its been fast downhill and now struggles to ping less than 100 with one playing.
Computer is virus and spyware free just this happens and a little later it can be good again for an hour then back to high pings.
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18-04-2006, 00:54
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Re: High pings to London server.
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Originally Posted by James Henry
Try another traceroute
Seems a bit 'sudden' that increase to be congestion on the ntl side.
It's also a bit too stable. |
this was taken just after I was kicked on CS for high pings by the server.
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Tracing route to 212.187.246.186 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms WRT54GS
2 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms 10.9.0.1
3 270 ms 214 ms 289 ms oldh-t2cam1-b-ge-wan51-129.inet.ntl.com [80.5.16
5.109]
4 197 ms 9 ms 9 ms manc-t3core-1b-ge-011-0.inet.ntl.com [213.104.24
2.169]
5 260 ms 55 ms 10 ms man-bb-b-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.242.245]
6 349 ms 9 ms 9 ms man-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.177]
7 296 ms 294 ms 291 ms 212.187.137.1
8 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms so-6-1-0.mp2.manchesteruk1.level3.net [4.68.113.
118]
9 483 ms 289 ms 296 ms so-1-1-0.bbr1.london1.level3.net [4.68.128.73]
10 472 ms 277 ms 290 ms ge-11-0.ipcolo2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.42]
11 407 ms * 24 ms 212.187.246.186
Trace complete.
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18-04-2006, 05:43
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Re: High pings to London server.
my service has gone to pot again, pings all over the place at 5.30 am, did it following a poor 3mbit download.
1 88 ms 107 ms 12 ms 10.227.112.1
2 46 ms 124 ms 43 ms leic-t2cam1-b-ge914.inet.ntl.com [82.3.35.213]
3 40 ms 27 ms 45 ms leic-t2core-b-ge-210-0.inet.ntl.com [82.3.33.134]
4 24 ms 60 ms 12 ms nth-bb-b-so-230-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.114]
5 73 ms 115 ms 10 ms pop-bb-a-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.14]
6 116 ms 53 ms 127 ms 195.50.91.69
7 110 ms 37 ms 15 ms ge-11-0.ipcolo2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.42]
8 17 ms 115 ms 113 ms 212.187.246.186
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 86.13.36.1
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=107ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=211ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=308ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=109ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=122ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=122ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=211ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=128ms TTL=255
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18-04-2006, 07:29
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Re: High pings to London server.
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Originally Posted by Florence
this was taken just after I was kicked on CS for high pings by the server.
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Still don't think it's congestion think it's something else.
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2 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms 10.9.0.1
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Is a tad low and stable for congestion on the ntl side, don't ya think?
Maybe someone who can actually take a look at your connection properly rather than making guesstimates can assist. 
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18-04-2006, 10:36
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Re: High pings to London server.
this is what I get early morning when most people are in work without changing anything!
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Tracing route to 212.187.246.186 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms WRT54GS [192.168.1.1]
2 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms 10.9.0.1
3 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms oldh-t2cam1-b-ge-wan51-129.inet.ntl.com [80.5.16
5.109]
4 9 ms 10 ms 9 ms manc-t3core-1b-ge-011-0.inet.ntl.com [213.104.24
2.169]
5 9 ms 8 ms 9 ms man-bb-b-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.242.245]
6 10 ms 9 ms 10 ms man-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.177]
7 24 ms 8 ms 27 ms 212.187.137.1
8 18 ms 9 ms 9 ms so-6-1-0.mp2.manchesteruk1.level3.net [4.68.113.
118]
9 28 ms 14 ms 25 ms so-1-1-0.bbr1.london1.level3.net [4.68.128.73]
10 20 ms 15 ms 15 ms ge-10-1.ipcolo2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.74]
11 21 ms 16 ms 15 ms 212.187.246.186
Trace complete.
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After 5pm it gets stupid and you can have high pings one hour and good ping the next but no two hours are ever the same.
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18-04-2006, 13:37
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Re: High pings to London server.
Don't blame ntl blame your router. I'm not saying that exactly is the problem but I've gone through four of their ****ty routers and still my latest WRT54GS sometimes fouls up causing me to have to spend hours of flashing, rebooting etc. until it suddenly, miraculously works properly again.
When you start lagging pull out your router, and try straight through to your modem. At least you will be able to eliminate it then from the equation if it proves not to be the problem.
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18-04-2006, 16:21
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Re: High pings to London server.
term time or not, I expect my isp to handle what they sell. At 5am when next to noone is online and I had that.
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18-04-2006, 17:36
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Re: High pings to London server.
im having the same trouble from stoke-on-trent playing a game hosted in france im also getting very high pings i will post some trace routes soon if they help
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after a long talk to ntl tech support i got told at the end to look at this website http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robin.d...ips/games.html
and that ntl could not do anything about it because they only promise that you can access websites, emails and general internet use, they do not support online gameing.
also as i promised in my last post here is a screenshot taken from ping plotter of my ping to the server i play on for 10 mins while on the phone to ntl
[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]
if any1 can help me with this i would be most greatfull as NTL dont want to know
thanks
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18-04-2006, 19:58
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Re: High pings to London server.
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Originally Posted by jtwn
Don't blame ntl blame your router. I'm not saying that exactly is the problem but I've gone through four of their ****ty routers and still my latest WRT54GS sometimes fouls up causing me to have to spend hours of flashing, rebooting etc. until it suddenly, miraculously works properly again.
When you start lagging pull out your router, and try straight through to your modem. At least you will be able to eliminate it then from the equation if it proves not to be the problem.
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I presume you are still using Linksys firmware?
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Originally Posted by riz250383
im having the same trouble from stoke-on-trent playing a game hosted in france im also getting very high pings i will post some trace routes soon if they help
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after a long talk to ntl tech support i got told at the end to look at this website http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robin.d...ips/games.html
and that ntl could not do anything about it because they only promise that you can access websites, emails and general internet use, they do not support online gameing.
also as i promised in my last post here is a screenshot taken from ping plotter of my ping to the server i play on for 10 mins while on the phone to ntl
if any1 can help me with this i would be most greatfull as NTL dont want to know
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If NTL isnt for gaming then why do they charge people an extra £5 to have the consoles attached to the network to play online games.
In fact I have been with NT for 6 years and its only since they went to 10mb that I have had unsteady connection I know my area is hit hard with 10mb users but I am still on 2mb.
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18-04-2006, 20:27
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Re: High pings to London server.
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Originally Posted by Florence
I presume you are still using Linksys firmware?
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Oh I've used them all. Various Linksys versions, DDWRT, HyperWRT.
Currently my WRT54GS is using an older version of the linksys firm, and my now redundant wireless B linksys is too (though custom firms weren't available for that).
I don't know about the newer routers since Cisco bought up Linksys but the older ones, from at least what I've had reliability can't have much said for them; I expect to be able to pump jigabytes through them and still have them working 6 months down the line being the consumer arm of the mighty Cisco Systems.
Its not like I even tax it with any advanced routing, most of the time its just used as a transport for the wireless. It does seem like there may some heat issues originating from the radio, I tried turning that all the way down with DDWRT but still was dodgy. Hard wiring it was fine. This how all my (Linksys) routers have gone dodgy, just over the wireless. And yes I did try different WLess NICs
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18-04-2006, 22:35
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Re: High pings to London server.
I bought this router to replace my old one when it was blamed for high pings and that is working perfectly on ADSL now this is only a month old.
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19-04-2006, 00:54
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Re: High pings to London server.
the gaming cop out is because of congestion, congestion will pretty much ruin gaming unless their is shaping in place to prioritise the traffic.
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22-04-2006, 23:20
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Re: High pings to London server.
this is looking like congestion.
I can do a tracer route in a morning and get low ms do it of an evening and ms is high also pings are lower in the morning than evening. also speeds have ddropped.
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Tracing route to 212.187.246.186 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms WRT54GS
2 8 ms 10 ms 7 ms 10.9.0.1
3 9 ms 9 ms 7 ms oldh-t2cam1-a-ge-wan51-129.inet.ntl.com [80.5.16
5.69]
4 9 ms 7 ms 7 ms manc-t3core-1a-ge-011-0.inet.ntl.com [213.104.24
2.41]
5 8 ms 18 ms 9 ms man-bb-a-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.175.1]
6 9 ms 8 ms 25 ms 212.187.137.1
7 33 ms 8 ms 8 ms so-6-1-0.mp2.manchesteruk1.level3.net [4.68.113.
118]
8 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms ae-1-0.bbr2.london1.level3.net [212.187.128.57]
9 23 ms 23 ms 14 ms ge-11-2.ipcolo2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.170
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10 16 ms 15 ms 16 ms 212.187.246.186
Trace complete.
Pinging 212.187.246.186 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=53
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=53
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=53
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=53
Ping statistics for 212.187.246.186:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 14ms, Maximum = 17ms, Average = 15ms
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evening.
Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:07:41 GMT
1st 512K took 5735 ms = 89.3 KB/sec, approx 736 Kbps, 0.72 Mbps
2nd 512K took 3125 ms = 163.8 KB/sec, approx 1350 Kbps, 1.32 Mbps
3rd 512K took 4406 ms = 116.2 KB/sec, approx 957 Kbps, 0.93 Mbps
4th 512K took 3516 ms = 145.6 KB/sec, approx 1200 Kbps, 1.17 Mbps
Overall Average Speed = approx 1061 Kbps, 1.04 Mbps
Pinging 212.187.246.186 with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=232ms TTL=53
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=53
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=160ms TTL=53
Ping statistics for 212.187.246.186:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 3, Lost = 1 (25% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 18ms, Maximum = 232ms, Average = 136ms
Tracing route to 212.187.246.186 over a maximum of 30 hops
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms WRT54GS
2 153 ms 26 ms 18 ms 10.9.0.1
3 * 462 ms 529 ms oldh-t2cam1-a-ge-wan51-129.inet.ntl.com [80.5.16
5.69]
4 244 ms 43 ms 186 ms manc-t3core-1a-ge-011-0.inet.ntl.com [213.104.24
2.41]
5 61 ms 49 ms 28 ms man-bb-a-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.175.1]
6 103 ms 113 ms 67 ms 212.187.137.1
7 292 ms 235 ms 177 ms so-6-1-0.mp2.manchesteruk1.level3.net [4.68.113.
118]
8 116 ms 79 ms 244 ms so-1-1-0.bbr1.london1.level3.net [4.68.128.73]
9 36 ms 15 ms 15 ms ge-10-0.ipcolo2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.10]
10 234 ms 360 ms 399 ms 212.187.246.186
Trace complete.
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The router has been removed and tested on the modem still had high pings on the server making me unable to play CS
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23-04-2006, 07:37
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Re: High pings to London server.
thats pretty bad, what speed you on? and yes it looks like congestion to me and looks worse then what I had.
If its upstream congestion then forcing yourself onto diff upstream might fix it, cycle your modem or login to it and use reset to defaults option which usually works better then cycling it and keep doing it until the upstream channel changes. If its downstream congestion you stuffed until ntl spend ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£ÃƒÆ ’‚£ on upgrades.
My trace and pings below to same server.
1 8 ms 20 ms 8 ms 10.227.112.1
2 9 ms 11 ms 7 ms leic-t2cam1-b-ge914.inet.ntl.com [82.3.35.213]
3 9 ms 8 ms 11 ms leic-t2core-b-ge-210-0.inet.ntl.com [82.3.33.134]
4 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms nth-bb-b-so-230-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.114]
5 24 ms 27 ms 16 ms pop-bb-a-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.14]
6 11 ms 11 ms 25 ms 195.50.91.69
7 12 ms 15 ms 63 ms ge-11-1.ipcolo2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.106]
8 35 ms 35 ms 48 ms 212.187.246.186
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=57
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=57
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=57
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57
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