So much for the views held here

[thenry]

Originally Posted by Carth

I've no idea if I'm a Right Winger or a Left Winger, what are the characteristics I should look for in order to be assigned a label?

I'd say angry right wing and wishful thinking left wing

[Carth]

Originally Posted by thenry

I'd say angry right wing and wishful thinking left wing

I'm a grumpy old man that shakes his fist at clouds, I think 'angry' is a given

Originally Posted by Carth

I've no idea if I'm a Right Winger or a Left Winger, what are the characteristics I should look for in order to be assigned a label?

Left Wing = Support a bigger state, more government intervention and maybe more socially progressive.

Right Wing = Support a smaller state, less government intervention and maybe less socially progressive.

Although it's not that simple. I.E Old Labour tended to be less socially progressive but supported a bigger state. Some people on the populist right also think that way now. You also get people who want a much smaller state and are socially progressive in that the government shouldn't get involved in the personal lives of anyone.

[Carth]

right . . .

so what does 'support a smaller/bigger state mean exactly?

Are we about to dump Scotland and Wales, or take over the whole of Ireland?

Please also explain 'Socially Progressive' too, because for years I've just seen society go backwards.


I'm wondering if the Raving Looneys are the party for me, are they Left, Right, or out of this World?

Originally Posted by Carth

right . . .

so what does 'support a smaller/bigger state mean exactly?

Are we about to dump Scotland and Wales, or take over the whole of Ireland?

It means the extent to which the State regulates/owns infrastructure and services, not the number of square miles under government control.

Please also explain 'Socially Progressive' too, because for years I've just seen society go backwards.

I'm wondering if the Raving Looneys are the party for me, are they Left, Right, or out of this World?

Socially progressive is supposed to mean advocating for social justice, equality and civil rights. Whether it actually achieves any of that is debatable.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Damien

Left Wing = Support a bigger state, more government intervention and maybe more socially progressive.

Right Wing = Support a smaller state, less government intervention and maybe less socially progressive.

Although it's not that simple. I.E Old Labour tended to be less socially progressive but supported a bigger state. Some people on the populist right also think that way now. You also get people who want a much smaller state and are socially progressive in that the government shouldn't get involved in the personal lives of anyone.

LEFT = Support a bigger state, more government intervention and maybe more socially progressive. (As per Damien's Left Wing).

LEFT WING = LEFT + nationalise what you can; maximal governmental intervention; include migration within socially progressive policies; totally screw the rich (whoever that is defined as being). Oh - gas the Tories

RIGHT = Support a smaller state, less government intervention and maybe less socially progressive. (As per Damien's Right Wing).

RIGHT WING = ???? It's certainly not going to be RIGHT+. According to Starmer, it's anyone who supports demonstrations against the Connolly woman who tweeted something deemed to be racist in the heat of her distraught moment after the Southport murders. Even @Russ has a difficulty defining "right wing".

[Russ]

lol you wish