Here comes the tax rises

[nomadking]

Convenient that Labour removed protecting the Winter Fuel allowance from their manifesto. Almost as if it was planned.

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by jfman

Total scaremongering.

You mean theblack hole saga

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Originally Posted by Pierre

I didn’t vote for them.

Didn't think you had

[jfman]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Convenient that Labour removed protecting the Winter Fuel allowance from their manifesto. Almost as if it was planned.

Heaven forbid they made sure the manifesto was correct.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

Heaven forbid they made sure the manifesto was correct.

You know something……I think I’m going to enjoy the next five years as the government are attacked and criticised and watch them being defended by the alumni on here.

Originally Posted by Pierre

You know something……I think I’m going to enjoy the next five years as the government are attacked and criticised and watch them being defended by the alumni on here.

It's better to be critical of the government.

[Taf]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

They'll be comming for the dissabled next,soft targets that can't fight back are always the easy targets.

Rumblings have been heard within the DWP about Personal Independence Payments being stopped as cash payments, but vouchers for "home modifications and adaptations, mobility aids and transport help".

There have also been strong rumours about how the assessments are carried out being made far stricter, with "help into training or work" being the prime directive for people with anxiety, depression and similar "transient" mental health problems.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

A huge financial black hole requires that some things will have to give sadly.

Well, maybe we shouldn’t be giving billions of our money to overseas countries ‘to help them fund climate change’. That money would fill in that alleged ‘Tory black hole’ immediately.That black hole is of Labour’s own making.

I did tell you to be careful what you wished for. You will come to see that I was right. This is just the start, and you ain’t seen nothing yet.Hold on to your pensions!

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Originally Posted by Damien

It's better to be critical of the government.

Is it? Constructive argument is good, but criticism aimed at destroying the confidence of the nation is not.

I am prepared to defend Labour for their good and sensible decisions, so if they get it right, I will be satisfied although I didn’t vote for them.

Let’s see how they do, but giving away taxpayers money to other countries ‘to help them fight climate change’ is not a good omen. We all have to pay for this nonsense.

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Well, maybe we shouldn’t be giving billions of our money to overseas countries ‘to help them fund climate change’. That money would fill in that alleged ‘Tory black hole’ immediately.That black hole is of Labour’s own making.

I did tell you to be careful what you wished for. You will come to see that I was right. This is just the start, and you ain’t seen nothing yet.Hold on to your pensions!

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Is it? Constructive argument is good, but criticism aimed at destroying the confidence of the nation is not.

I am prepared to defend Labour for their good and sensible decisions, so if they get it right, I will be satisfied although I didn’t vote for them.

Let’s see how they do, but giving away taxpayers money to other countries ‘to help them fight climate change’ is not a good omen. We all have to pay for this nonsense.

The £700M wasted on the Rwanda fiasco would have helped out there don't you think?

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

You know something……I think I’m going to enjoy the next five years as the government are attacked and criticised and watch them being defended by the alumni on here.

I’ll likely be near the front of the queue if they embrace tried, tested and failed austerity. However not for removing from their manifesto a commitment they no longer wish to make.

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Originally Posted by daveeb

The £700M wasted on the Rwanda fiasco would have helped out there don't you think?

That and Baroness Mone’s wedge extracted from the taxpayer do add up.

[nffc]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Well, if you don't have full access to the information, and only find out the extent of the problem once you do, it's a bit different from losing "an odd quid"...

As far as I understand the last Government did ensure that the shadow cabinet was given access to all the budget forecasts, financial info etc.


Ms Reeves was shadow chancellor before the election so her department would have been made aware of the actual situation long before they were in power.


It's simply mendacious for them to suggest they did not know the full picture and totally immoral for them to campaign on the basis that they would not be increasing these taxes, and then to do so - or announce plans to do so - within a month of winning the election.


I'm sure that when Mr Starmer (or Sir or whatever he wants to be) was in opposition and there were issues with fuel due to external factors such as the lockdowns his party wanted more of, harder, longer, earlier, and the situation in the Ukraine, where there was a genuine inflation issue after the pandemic etc, and the Government brought in support measures such as the fuel allowances and extended them so more people didn't have the choice whether to heat or eat, this was something he was in favour of and was probably campaigning for. Now the boot is on the other foot he's now seeing he has to pay for it as well as the other things he's promised and now can't afford it.


I'm also pretty certain the plan to remove the VAT exemption on independent school fees is going to cause mayhem, some parents will not be able to afford this (at school there was plenty of parents who were not well off and they went without so the kids could get the education), and so the kids will have to move into the state sector, if this happens to enough or too many kids in one school this could cause more kids to be displaced if the schools have to close. So more places needed in state schools, more teachers needed and they won't be getting as much VAT... Also, with this one, the big irony is that EU rules prevent taxation of childrens' education, so literally they can only do this because of the Brexit Sir Keir is wanting to overturn...

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

That and Baroness Mone’s wedge extracted from the taxpayer do add up.

So does housing “illegal” immigrants in hotels …..1.3billion in 2022. (Will be much more now)

Almost exactly what they’re taking from pensioners.

So there you have it, this Labour government values illegal entrants to this country more than those that have lived here and contributed all their lives to this nation.

They’d happily see pensioners die in the winter, whilst keeping illegal immigrants nice and warm with room service.

[jfman]

If only we took back control of our borders and laws.

Originally Posted by jfman

If only we took back control of our borders and laws.

How would that help ?

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Paul

How would that help ?

That was the promise, stem the tide of migration.

In reality it lost our agreements with the EU to send people back to their country of first entry making the UK more attractive as a destination, not less.

.... and this is related to tax rises how ?