new call charges and connection fees

[moaningmags]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

Hasn't been that for ages. Probably on purpose to make BB more attractive

Aye, I'm going back 8 years when I used to have dial up, before I had Surf Unlimited I had to remember it was 60p an hour and count it up.

I suppose to only go up by 2p in 8 years is actually ok.
What amazes me more is that there are actually still people using dial up.
I remember one particular customer who got broadband, hated it and got it removed and went back to dial up.

[Turkey Machine]

If you've got a BT line, there are 0845 dial-up companies. Free internet anyone?

[chickendippers]

Internet access number are excluded, BT aint stupid

[Turkey Machine]

Originally Posted by chickendippers

Internet access number are excluded, BT aint stupid

Now, see, how would they know that? An 0845 number is an 0845 number; by it's definition it's non-geographic. What's it matter whether it's a modem dialling it for the internet or technical support for some random company?

[bonzoe]

I know what you mean, but I expect that BT et al know what these 0845 ISP numbers are and have them in a lookup table at the exchanges and then bill you accordingly.

[BenMcr]

Plus it is limited to 1000mins or 150 calls per month, even if BT did allow it for ISPs, it wouldn't last long

---------- Post added at 19:53 ---------- Previous post was at 19:52 ----------

Can I point out with Virgin's Talk Anywhere, Dial up numbers ARE included

[Matth]

Ouch! so even VMs dialup is 3p/min at all times

I used to use Geoisp as a backup, but it seems to have finally broken down - call still goes through and connects, but it seems their routing is screwed.

I guess next time broadband goes down, I'll have to learn to like mobile browsing - at 30p for a whole day, it's a bargain compared to stinking dialup rates.

[m419]

Well if its dial up your after, they still offer Surf Unlimited for a fixed fee.

I noticed they blocked a load of 0844 access numbers too! Icluding the number for Virgin.net access.

What about using AOL via 120??? That still works on my line.

Also Tiscali are able to provide dial up via a range of numbers including 0800 and 0808 access numbers.

[Matth]

Cheapest backup connection, PAYG, or a prepay card with a long expiry.

PS. Broadband just barfed AGAIN! - Ranging fail and and hanging around blinking, reset and it came back - so why the hell didn't it bring itself back?
Are STBs less reliable, as since the install of the glorious Samsung Silver (on the 16th), that's 2 drops already, one major, one minor.

[chickendippers]

I don't know about being less reliable, but VM would prefer you to have a stand alone modem.

[nutellajunkie]

another reason I dont even use the (still active) phonline I get with my package. I only keep it there because of loyalty discounts, else Id rid of it completely.

I refuse to use the line atall, im glad of voip, which I hardly use, but for incoming calls its perfect. When I do use it, i pay for what I use, nothing more, nothing less.

I reckon if you can do it, shift to a voip service, and dont bother using your line atall. VM may get the idea, but then, they are slightly arrogant.

Happy I am with my package setup, so no complaints from me If you aren't happy, then try something else, dont sit and complain and expect something magic to happen.

We have uber choice here in the UK, take advantage!

[bensden]

Originally Posted by BenMcr

If you don't like the costs, go to another provider.

Don't take it as a personal insult, he is just expressing an opinion.

[chuzzlemonkey]

lol...this thread has been going for a while!

Wonder how long till people are discussing the fact that the call charges to 0844's etc are going up again!? :p

[BenMcr]

Well they will be now you have mentioned it

[chuzzlemonkey]

*opens can of worms*