Red Ken's Head of Equalities & Policing under the spotlight?

Originally Posted by Stuart C

Simple solution: Ignore the thread.

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London's transport system is many things, and it is generally quite good, but one thing it is not, is cheap.

Stuart you have to realise that most of the country envies the cheap London public transport.It's a lot more expensive out in the sticks and a damn sight more efficient than many of us experience who live elsewhere.

Our last bus from the nearby town leaves at 8.40 pm which is an absolute swine when you consider the number of people working late or at night jobs in Portsmouth who use the Portsmouth ferry which is the quickest route into Gosport.Trouble is you then either have to find a lift,or ride a bike/motorbike(which negates the point of public transport) or take a taxi to get home.The last time I bothered it was nearly £3 for a 4 mile trip by bus plus the ferry fare.A taxi is of course double that.No train service here once you leave Portsmouth and no underground at all.

No I think Londoners should be pleased to have one of the best city transport systems in the world

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

My weekly zone 1 to 3 travel card costs 28.40 letting me travel anywhere within London all week which I dont think is so expensive. However the other day I forgot my Oyster card and had to take a bus and the 2 pound fare did shock me.

I think its not so cheap if you have to make one off trips as such where you dont have a travel card/oyster, but for where you can buy oyster/weekly travel cards, its not so bad.

London actually has one of the most expensive public transport systems on the planet.

[punky]

I remember I travelled from London to Manchester cheaper than it cost me to travel a few mins on the tube between a couple of zones on the underground.

[Osem]

Hmmm ... I bet Red Ken, Lee Jasper et al are delighted with the turn this thread has taken

[Stuart]

While Ken was responsible for a lot of the fare rises (despite what he says), I think we do need to get back to topic.

[Osem]

Back on topic we go

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...08.livingstone

What a darn shame!

and now he won't be able to answer all those pesky questions about that funding nonsense in the tabloids.....

[TheNorm]

Originally Posted by Osem

...and now he won't be able to answer all those pesky questions about that funding nonsense in the tabloids.....

Considering that...

Two weeks ago, Scotland Yard, which looked into the how the grants were given, said that Jasper had no criminal case to answer.

...this looks like another case of "trial by tabloid".

[Osem]

Well unless you have a crystal ball it's too early to say that surely and of course Red Ken has promised his old buddy his job back if/when he is cleared of any wrongdoing so if he's as squeaky clean as you imply he'll be just fine. Of course alleged romatic attachment to people who run organisations tax payers money has been given to isn't a crime but then again it isn't a sign of great impartiality either.

Originally Posted by TheNorm

Considering that...



...this looks like another case of "trial by tabloid".

Yes I had covered that point.....

Originally Posted by Osem

Intriguingly, having been told by the Met that they didn't think there was anything for them to investigate, Red Ken is requesting they proceed with a full investigation into the allegations of wrongdoing. Of course he may just want his mate's name to be cleared once and for all but some are claiming it has more to do with being seen to be taking a tough stance on abuse of the system just before the election......

[Mr_love_monkey]

Originally Posted by Osem

Intriguingly, having been told by the Met that they didn't think there was anything for them to investigate, Red Ken is requesting they proceed with a full investigation into the allegations of wrongdoing. Of course he may just want his mate's name to be cleared once and for all but some are claiming it has more to do with being seen to be taking a tough stance on abuse of the system just before the election......

But surely then he's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't?

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey

But surely then he's damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't?

Well he could have resigned last week or next week couldn't he and having been promised his old job back it's really not much of a statement is it?

[TheNorm]

Originally Posted by Osem

Well he could have resigned last week or next week couldn't he and having been promised his old job back it's really not much of a statement is it?

So what would you suggest, if Ken asked you for advice?

[Osem]

I'd suggest these people acted beyond reproach in the first place - that way nobody will have to resign. Of course if they couldn't do that my next piece of advice would be to expect the dirt to be dished by their enemies whoever they may be - tabloid newspapers, opposition parties or just those with an axe to grind......

[Mr_love_monkey]

Originally Posted by Osem

I'd suggest these people acted beyond reproach in the first place - that way nobody will have to resign.

Sadly no one can act beyond reproach - you dig deep enough in anyone's past and you'll find something.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey

Sadly no one can act beyond reproach - you dig deep enough in anyone's past and you'll find something.

True but nobody much cares if you or I do something wrong Seriously though, the stakes are rightly somewhat higher for those in positions of power as are the standards required and the rewards of office.

[TheNorm]

Originally Posted by Osem

I'd suggest these people acted beyond reproach in the first place - that way nobody will have to resign. Of course if they couldn't do that my next piece of advice would be to expect the dirt to be dished by their enemies whoever they may be - tabloid newspapers, opposition parties or just those with an axe to grind......

So you are saying the guy didn't act beyond reproach. Is this based on an article in a tabloid newspaper?

Or do you have other evidence that Scotland Yard might want to see?