Post-Brexit Thread

I'm in no way condoning threats of any kind it's a disgusting way to behave and the second you engage in that behaviour you nullify any argument you have, i just don't think gina miller is the crusader some are making her out to be and i think there is something beyond her intentions that isn't good. As i said though if you had been on the end of the level of abuse she claims and having now won her case why is she still trying to be involved in this and not backing away. We are so social media driven now that mob mentality is alive and well and exists on both sides there is no shortage of morons in this world.

[Osem]

It's strange that the so called shadow home secretary, Diane Abbot, suddenly became too ill to vote on the Brexit bill last night. I'm sure she didn't put her job/career prospects and close friendship with Corbyn ahead of her true feelings on such an important issue she apparently felt so passionate about beforehand...

https://order-order.com/2017/02/02/c...er-article-50/

Just love her comment, referred to in the comments, "we weren't sent to Parliament to abstain".

Typical hypocrisy.

Originally Posted by Osem

It's strange that the so called shadow home secretary, Diane Abbot, suddenly became too ill to vote on the Brexit bill last night. I'm sure she didn't put her job/career prospects and close friendship with Corbyn ahead of her true feelings on such an important issue she apparently felt so passionate about beforehand...

https://order-order.com/2017/02/02/c...er-article-50/

Just love her comment, referred to in the comments, "we weren't sent to Parliament to abstain".

Typical hypocrisy.

She is a disgusting piece of work that one and she uses racist language and gets away with it, Labour have no hope of winning any Election with Corbyn at the helm but she is just as bad as he is, so what you have here is two for the price of one, one set of imbeciles.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Obviously learnt a thing or two from Turkeys president

Maybe.

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Originally Posted by Damien

Rather stupid thing to do. I don't like Darce but Rothermere was right to reject the absurd request. Although not directly relevant it also shows why the new press regulation proposals should be rejected, the government shouldn't be anywhere near the press.

David Yelland ex-Sun editor was interviewed about it. He said that it was foolish as Paul Dacre had been in the position for 25 years and generated £millions for the Rothermeres so the chances of anyone influencing the proprietor were minimal. An editor needs to have the readers and proprietor on board which Dacre does.
Worse was the possibility of Paul Dacre finding out and holding it against David Cameron. Dacre was understood to have found out before the proprietor told him on 24 June 2016.
One of Cameron's worst calls, more so because his background is in PR and he should have known better.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Osem

It's strange that the so called shadow home secretary, Diane Abbot, suddenly became too ill to vote on the Brexit bill last night. I'm sure she didn't put her job/career prospects and close friendship with Corbyn ahead of her true feelings on such an important issue she apparently felt so passionate about beforehand...

https://order-order.com/2017/02/02/c...er-article-50/

Just love her comment, referred to in the comments, "we weren't sent to Parliament to abstain".

Typical hypocrisy.

She wasn't to ill to go to the pub or tweet that night and considering at least 2 MP's attended the vote whilst having cancer treatment I'm not sure a headache is reason enough to miss it, someone said earlier they remember MP's in the '70's being brought to parliament on stretchers to vote.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...te-Brexit.html

[Pierre]

She epitomises everything that I despise about politicians

[denphone]

No wonder many in this country are turned off with politicians as all they see in front of them is self serving , obfuscating , contradictory , untrustworthy , ********ting slime balls.

A perfect example of how low political standards have dropped and exactly why people are voting in ways no one would have thought of a decade ago.

[techguyone]

It's not over yet. MORE legal challenges.

There'll be even more votes in parliament required because the current bill only covers leaving the EU. We joined the EEA (Single Market) separately in 1993 and must use Article 127 of the EEA Treaty to give notice to leave. The current bill only asks for authority to trigger article 50.

Don't you just wish the muppets in power had the sense to avoid all this by having decent legislation covering all angles before hand...

[heero_yuy]

Originally Posted by techguyone

It's not over yet. MORE legal challenges.

There'll be even more votes in parliament required because the current bill only covers leaving the EU. We joined the EEA (Single Market) separately in 1993 and must use Article 127 of the EEA Treaty to give notice to leave. The current bill only asks for authority to trigger article 50.

Don't you just wish the muppets in power had the sense to avoid all this by having decent legislation covering all angles before hand...

Those arrogant muppets never thought the voters would reject the EU so they didn't bother to make contingency plans. Hence the chaos now.

Personally i believe cameron knew exactly what he was doing with the way the referendum was setup in order to create maximum trouble if in his mind the highly unlikely result was to leave the EU. That's why he quit he knew the total mess he'd created and didn't want to be the one to sort it out easier to quit and let the next one get all the carp.

Originally Posted by techguyone

It's not over yet. MORE legal challenges.

There'll be even more votes in parliament required because the current bill only covers leaving the EU. We joined the EEA (Single Market) separately in 1993 and must use Article 127 of the EEA Treaty to give notice to leave. The current bill only asks for authority to trigger article 50.

Don't you just wish the muppets in power had the sense to avoid all this by having decent legislation covering all angles before hand...

The High Court has ruled that the government does not need to deal separately with the issue of the EEA.

https://order-order.com/2017/02/03/b...by-high-court/

[Osem]

Originally Posted by techguyone

It's not over yet. MORE legal challenges.

There'll be even more votes in parliament required because the current bill only covers leaving the EU. We joined the EEA (Single Market) separately in 1993 and must use Article 127 of the EEA Treaty to give notice to leave. The current bill only asks for authority to trigger article 50.

Don't you just wish the muppets in power had the sense to avoid all this by having decent legislation covering all angles before hand...

But what would all the lawyers do then?...

[1andrew1]

An interesting article of which this is just the summary.
NB Some newspapers may use the terms "intelligence" and "educational achievement" interchangeably. They are not the same thing.

Local voting figures shed new light on EU referendum
The BBC has obtained a more localised breakdown of votes from nearly half of the local authorities which counted EU referendum ballots last June.
This information provides much greater depth and detail in explaining the pattern of how the UK voted.

The key findings are:

• The data confirms previous indications that local results were strongly associated with the educational attainment of voters - populations with lower qualifications were significantly more likely to vote Leave. (The data for this analysis comes from one in nine wards)
• The level of education had a higher correlation with the voting pattern than any other major demographic measure from the census
• The age of voters was also important, with older electorates more likely to choose Leave
• Ethnicity was crucial in some places, with ethnic minority areas generally more likely to back Remain. However this varied, and in parts of London some Asian populations were more likely to support Leave
• The combination of education, age and ethnicity accounts for the large majority of the variation in votes between different places
• Across the country and in many council districts we can point out stark contrasts between localities which most favoured Leave or Remain
• There was a broad pattern in several urban areas of deprived, predominantly white, housing estates towards the urban periphery voting Leave, while inner cities with high numbers of ethnic minorities and/or students voted Remain
• Around 270 locations can be identified where the local outcome was in the opposite direction to the broader official counting area, including parts of Scotland which backed Leave and a Cornwall constituency which voted Remain
• Postal voters appear narrowly more likely to have backed Remain than those who voted in a polling station

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38762034

[pip08456]

Hmmmmmmmmmm, so educated, young , multicultural voted remain.

Pretty descriptive of liberal luvvies.