TiVo : General TiVo Discussion Part 3

Originally Posted by denphone

But thats not the point as the point is why are we still waiting for


Virgin’s TiVo's iPad app
OTT apps like Netflix and Lovefilm
Multiroom streaming
Other useful apps
Reminders
The full red button functionality
And several other things a year on from launch

Got to love SKY, the new iPad SKY Sports News app you have got to sign in with your SKY ID or pay £5 per month

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Clearly it was your point as you said

Sorry. You mis-understood because I didn't explain myself fully. (Though my point would have been clearer to anyone who had read the article I linked to.)

Sky were in charge of Customer Service and advertising of the original Tivo; the latter of which they failed at miserably; possibly deliberately in favour of their own machine which, whilst technically superior, was only of use to it's own subscribers.

Compare and contrast this original UK Tivo ad from 2000 with this current one.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by mlayzell

Got to love SKY, the new iPad SKY Sports News app you have got to sign in with your SKY ID or pay £5 per month

That's probably because they are an extra for Sky subscribers. Why should they give them away for free , it's simple subscribe to Sky and you can use them

[DaMac]

At the point where Virgin Media said to TiVo "Look we want to make your product available on our system and make it the best way to watch TV ever" shouldn't someone in VM have insisted that a dedicated UK technical team be sent here to work on and evolve the system for British use. It's what other big company's do, for example You don't think some guy sit's in Japan and design's a TV to work in Germany AND the Uk where Germany doesn't have Red Button services, but the UK does... no Panasonic have a dedicated UK team to make sure that stuff works, or can be fixed quickly if there is a problem. As usual with VM it is amateur hour.

Originally Posted by muppetman11

That's probably because they are an extra for Sky subscribers. Why should they give them away for free , it's simple subscribe to Sky and you can use them

Before it was a simple free app to find the latest sport headlines, not sure but certain levels of SKY subscription get this as part of their package?

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by DaMac

At the point where Virgin Media said to TiVo "Look we want to make your product available on our system and make it the best way to watch TV ever" shouldn't someone in VM have insisted that a dedicated UK technical team be sent here to work on and evolve the system for British use. It's what other big company's do, for example You don't think some guy sit's in Japan and design's a TV to work in Germany AND the Uk where Germany doesn't have Red Button services, but the UK does... no Panasonic have a dedicated UK team to make sure that stuff works, or can be fixed quickly if there is a problem. As usual with VM it is amateur hour.

Hmm... Which is the bigger company; Panasonic (worldwide leading TV brand) or Virgin Media (small, UK only firm only covering half the country.)?

I take your point, and I agree with it, but there might be an "economy of scale" thing to consider.

That said, although we know all coding has to be done by the US Tivo team, we don't know that there isn't some sort of team over here anyway. I'm sure VM does have a dedicated Tivo team. (In fact, you can call them if you like on 0800 052 2184 for fault reports, etc.)

Not that one is needed nowadays with teleconferencing and the internet, of course



(Side note. So annoying when I don't bother quoting as my reply is "next" then find that someone's sneaked one in whilst I'm composing mine. So I end up going back and having to quote )

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by mlayzell

Before it was a simple free app to find the latest sport headlines, not sure but certain levels of SKY subscription get this as part of their package?

That's because the Sky Sports News app for iPad has now become the Sky Sports app which includes such things as F1 Companion (multiple video feeds , social updates , highlights , The Masters Companion app with all the same goodies?

To get back on topic , Carl what was wrong with that original TIVO ad in 2000

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by carlwaring

That said, although we know all coding has to be done by the US Tivo team, we don't know that there isn't some sort of team over here anyway.

They do have a team in the UK, permanently based in a VM office, as do Cisco, Pace, Samsung and Seachange (ex-Liberate). They even do some of the coding.

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

... Carl what was wrong with that original TIVO ad in 2000

I do hope you weren't being serious

[borrissey]

Is the TiVO still having a 3D EPG?

[carlwaring]

A what-now?

[zantarous]

Originally Posted by denphone

But thats not the point as the point is why are we still waiting for


Virgin’s TiVo's iPad app
OTT apps like Netflix and Lovefilm
Multiroom streaming
Other useful apps
Reminders
The full red button functionality
And several other things a year on from launch

The iPad app seems to be an anomaly as they could release a it in its current form but for some bizarre reason they want to hold on and add more features these seems more a Virgin thing then Tivo;

They have never said Lovefilm or Netflix is coming so stop waiting;

Multiroom streaming as I am sure you are aware is being held up by rights issues, most broadcasters are clinging to a old model and are afraid to try anything new;

They only announced reminders in Feb so at least give them time to code and test the next firmware these things take time, we have had far better software updates then we ever had under Liberate;

red button has already launched for Sky Sports, for all we know the hold up could be the BBC or maybe they want to make sure they can handle all 24 Olympic streams before launching?

A year in software design is a very short space of time, in fact there are things that we have in our Tivio that Tivo have now ported over to the US like the mini guide. all these things will come, if Virgin rush all this to market they would then have people complaining here that they can't do anything right and have rushed a unfinished SW update that doesn't work.

[borrissey]

Originally Posted by carlwaring

A what-now?

They were apprently going to release a 3D EPG for the TiVo.

[Digital Fanatic]

Originally Posted by borrissey

They were apprently going to release a 3D EPG for the TiVo.

I hope not, unless it's optional

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by borrissey

They were apprently going to release a 3D EPG for the TiVo.

Seriously? Oh good grief