TiVo : General TiVo Discussion Part 3

[alwaysabear]

I guess that this is the problem when VM buy into a product not designed for their market .

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by Henkesghost

Should have been done before launch.

And had the product delayed for more than another year? (Remember, it was nnounced a year before it arrived!). No thanks! The basics work (ie it records TV shows). So that's fine. Everything else they are now working on.

Rushed release..

As it was around a year from announcement to launch (more, actually, if you only count the offical, generall release) then your comment makes no sense.

has meant that the box is getting very mixed reviews..

Mixed, maybe, but mostly positive from the ones I've read. Over on the AV Forums, they gave it their highest-possible award; Reference Standard.

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear

I guess that this is the problem when VM buy into a product not designed for their market .

Other than the fact that the original Tivo launched here in 2000, you mean?

Yes, it has limited success but that was only because Sky were in charge of it over here, and they screwed-it over in favour of their own Sky+.

[passingbat]

When VM offered both Tivo and V+, there wasn't a problem. People who had to have red button and reminders could have a V+ and those that these features weren't a must have item, could choose the advanced functionality of Tivo.

Both groups were happy and delaying Tivo until everything was there, served no purpose. It would only have frustrated people who wanted tivo functionality and weren't fussed over lack of red button etc. but wouldn't have brought a fully functioning Tivo to the other people any sooner.

We're now in a greyer area as V+ is no longer a box option for new customers. From one perspective, that makes sense, because the sooner the old boxes are gone, the sooner VM can move to Mpeg4, giving us more recording capacity and presumably other advantages. But it also brings frustration to those who have to have tivo if they join VM and probably expect red button as a given.

[Henkesghost]

Thanks Passingbat, but isn't that a massive og? New customers will be put off by the lack of these functions, ah well why worry, some are satisfied by a big recording box

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Henkesghost

Thanks Passingbat, but isn't that a massive og? New customers will be put off by the lack of these functions, ah well why worry, some are satisfied by a big recording box

Its all very good having a big recording box but the TiVo can do far more then that but the trouble is there seems a long wait to get these other functions in which the TiVo is so damn capable of doing so thats why people are getting impatient at waiting for these other functions to arrive.

[zantarous]

Don't brush all customers with the same brush. I have no idea what's on this red button that people going on about as I never used it in the V+ days.

My boss at work got a TiVo recently and she is a very non techy person and has been raving about the TiVo. If these functions are that important why get one in the first place?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by zantarous

Don't brush all customers with the same brush. I have no idea what's on this red button that people going on about as I never used it in the V+ days.

My boss at work got a TiVo recently and she is a very non techy person and has been raving about the TiVo. If these functions are that important why get one in the first place?

But thats not the point as the point is why are we still waiting for


Virgin’s TiVo's iPad app
OTT apps like Netflix and Lovefilm
Multiroom streaming
Other useful apps
Reminders
The full red button functionality
And several other things a year on from launch

[alwaysabear]

Originally Posted by carlwaring

And had the product delayed for more than another year? (Remember, it was nnounced a year before it arrived!). No thanks! The basics work (ie it records TV shows). So that's fine. Everything else they are now working on.


As it was around a year from announcement to launch (more, actually, if you only count the offical, generall release) then your comment makes no sense.


Mixed, maybe, but mostly positive from the ones I've read. Over on the AV Forums, they gave it their highest-possible award; Reference Standard.

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Other than the fact that the original Tivo launched here in 2000, you mean?

The TiVo was designed for the US market and that is why it does not have the functions that people are used to in this country.

[thunderlips]

sky movies collection on tivo is £21.50/ vm website £19.50 ? or are my eyes playing tricks on me ? lol can anyone confirm this or i might be wrong ? can any virgin media staff or anyone answer this pls ? thanks.

[passingbat]

Originally Posted by zantarous

I have no idea what's on this red button that people going on about as I never used it in the V+ days.

Never used it myself and people know my views on reminders

I got Tivo as soon as I could after release, so was in favour of them releasing it with 'bits missing' and I've loved it ever since. But people had the option to stay with V+ if they needed missing functionality.

But a year on, VM still haven't added the features available on V+ but have discontinued the V+.

As I've said in other posts, Sky are soon launching fibre broadband and VM's biggest and massively significant USP, will be gone.

They need to implement those things on Den's list very quickly to compensate for that, because I think Tivo, as it is now, especially with core functionality missing, won't be a big enough USP.

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by alwaysabear

The TiVo was designed for the US market and that is why it does not have the functions that people are used to in this country.

Something wrong with that statement?

[alwaysabear]

Originally Posted by carlwaring

Something wrong with that statement?

Do explain I am sure you are dying too.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by carlwaring

Yes, it has limited success but that was only because Sky were in charge of it over here, and they screwed-it over in favour of their own Sky+.

Sky+ is just the name of Sky's implementation of the PVR software , the software is XTV DVR technology and belongs to NDS. The software is already deployed in more than 40 million homes and called many different things Sky+ , DirecTV plus , Foxtel IQ , Viasat so as you see it's not their own software.

[carlwaring]

Originally Posted by alwaysabear

Do explain I am sure you are dying too.

You were the one querying it, not me.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

...so as you see it's not their own software.

Which, again, was not the point.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by carlwaring

Which, again, was not the point.

Clearly it was your point as you said

Yes, it has limited success but that was only because Sky were in charge of it over here, and they screwed-it over in favour of their own Sky+.