2mb service

[wizardman]

Originally Posted by Salu

It will be interesting to see what happens to the 2MB service "when" NTL merge with Telewest, which seems likely?

Dumped or diversified?

it dont matter to me who provides the service coz im happy either way i must be mentally sayin this

[Stuartbe]

From reading the posts on this and other forums the problem I can see is that everyone is being acused of hogging bandwidth.

I am trying hard to understand the logic of the above.

If I as a customer was not bothered about bandwidth of transfer speeds I would use a dial up connection. The reason that I pay my £35.00 a month is that I want a 1mb connection and I want to use that 1mb connection when I need to. If that means some very large downloads so be it.

I dont understand the problem. People are paying for a service that they want. I would not go into a hi fi shop and buy a separate's amp that I could only use on friday and that only works corectly when it feels like it. I would demand a refund,

We are paying for a service - if a company cannot provide that service (if there network cant handle it for example) then we are not getting the service. SIMPLE

Deep Breath ---- rant over.............

[rswilson]

I would also like to add the following:

The Cost of Having Analog Executives in a Digital World

Hal Berghel

"There is no business in the world which can hope to move forward if it does not keep abreast of the time, look into the future and study the probable demands of the future."

INTRODUCTION

The quote above is from Thomas J. Watson, Sr. on the occasion of the opening of a new IBM laboratory in 1932. Few would disagree of the need for sound and accurate technology forecasting in any organization which seeks to remain competitive. However there is little evidence that the full ramifications of this observation are consistently understood or widely implemented even today. T.J. seniorââ‚Ã⠀šÃ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s advice may be falling on deaf ears †“ and this is will become even more of a problem as we begin a new millennium where network/distributed processing environments will be even more unforgiving of technological blunders.

regards

Rob

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Kitty

Looks like NTL are going to be left behind as ADSL finds ways of giving more speed.
Soon to start bonding ADSL so you can use 2x2mb connections giving a 4mb ADSL connection. Would love to see what their trails come out like. Will the ADSL people finally nail NTL's coffin shut....

To be honest Kitty, I'm getting to a point now after 3.5 years with Ntl where I want to cancel both TV&phone and BB and get a BT line and free-view. I'm so hacked off with their attitude about things like e-mail and ETV as well as having nothing but hassle when I call Nottingham (at the moment, they used to be fairly good ).

Anyone know where I can buy a Free-view box and return it if it doesn't work?

[Ignition]

[QUOTE=joker]NTL will have to do somthing about the speed they offer, as ADSL is catching up, I think bulldog offer a 6mbps service on off peak hours with a 400kb upload

http://www.bulldogdsl.com/residentia.../primetime.asp
QUOTE]

Only available in less than 100 exchanges in Central London tho, the ones connected to Bulldog's metro ring.

Think the best comparison is against BT's IPStream services, which are 512k/256k and 1024k/256k flavours only.

[fraz]

Originally Posted by dr wadd

I`m waiting for the day the regulators realise that cable companies have a local monopoly and force them to open their connections to other suppliers so I could get the Blueyonder service over NTL lines.

Its already starting to happen *without* any legislation/regulation. AOL via ntl Cable anyone ? Also IIRC Freeserve were considering it as well, there was something in the Press section of ntl.com but I cant be bothered hunting it down

[Biggus]

Companies like Freedom2Surf supply 2Mb ADSL with 20:1 contention for £59.95 pm with no activation fee & no contract period. If NTL or no other company offers 2Mb within the next few months, then I'm dumping NTL (TV, Phone & BB) for Sky, BT & F2S, which will just go to show that I won't put up with short-sighted & sub-standard service.

The constant lack of working email, use of proxies and slow service, is making me detest NTL more each time. I pay around £100pm to NTL, & if they don't care enough to provide me with what I'm paying for, then I'll take my custom & money elsewhere.

[joker]

Originally Posted by fraz

Its already starting to happen *without* any legislation/regulation. AOL via ntl Cable anyone ? Also IIRC Freeserve were considering it as well, there was something in the Press section of ntl.com but I cant be bothered hunting it down

True yes, but my point was that its still available, do ntl offer such a fast service within the same area? (I don't think so )

[fraz]

Originally Posted by joker

True yes, but my point was that its still available, do ntl offer such a fast service within the same area? (I don't think so )

But given the vastly different technologies between cable & copper wire based adsl I would imagine its technically not practicable for the cable companies (ntl,telewest,wightcable,kingston etc) to 'unbundle the local loop' in the same way that BT can for ADSL technology.

[joker]

Sorry fraz quoted that wrong I think, Just trying to put a point across that other comapanys are providing a faster service.

Its a shame that you can ADSL over NTL, is there any plans for this, I'm sure that i was reading on an ADSL providers website that it ADSL may soon be possable over NTL.. ?

[fraz]

Originally Posted by joker

Sorry fraz quoted that wrong I think, Just trying to put a point across that other comapanys are providing a faster service.

Its a shame that you can ADSL over NTL, is there any plans for this, I'm sure that i was reading on an ADSL providers website that it ADSL may soon be possable over NTL.. ?

Again its a techniology issue. Why should any cable company spend money on enabling ADSL on their telco network when they can already provide broadband via the CATV feed ??


NTL do offer business ADSL packages, if you are on a BT line.

[kronas]

in business you have to stay one step ahead of your competitors so by providing a 2mbit service its there to use for NTL customers the short term cost of billing changes and the network tweaks for new config files etc would all be short term but long term NTL will see an increased benefit to its subscriber base attracting customers who maybe after a higher then normal download speed as i am one of those that have expressed an interest in 2mbit as well as others in previous threads

Originally Posted by fraz

Its already starting to happen *without* any legislation/regulation. AOL via ntl Cable anyone ? Also IIRC Freeserve were considering it as well, there was something in the Press section of ntl.com but I cant be bothered hunting it down

But it isn`t really a choice at the end of the day with only those two options, and scarily enough, with that choice I see NTL as the better devil.

We need to see the situation with cable being brought in line with that with BT phone lines, where we have a choice of a wide range of suppliers.

[fraz]

Originally Posted by dr wadd

But it isn`t really a choice at the end of the day with only those two options, and scarily enough, with that choice I see NTL as the better devil.

We need to see the situation with cable being brought in line with that with BT phone lines, where we have a choice of a wide range of suppliers.

At the risk of appearing to repeat myself I dont believe (and I'm sure someone out there knows the technology better) that its technologically feasible for Cable companies to open up their networks in the same manner as BT has done.

[kronas]

Originally Posted by dr wadd

We need to see the situation with cable being brought in line with that with BT phone lines, where we have a choice of a wide range of suppliers.

if your saying NTL should allow other broadband suppliers to use there network so we can get higher speeds via ADSL i dont see that happening but then again it is NTL