Here comes the tax rises

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Mr K

What about the 14 years when the public sector got less than inflation? Its catch up time, and above inflation increases will be needed for several years. . They should be greatful the whole of the public sector isn't demanding all the lost pay at once like the Junior Dr's have.

The public sector WILL increase their demands. How does it compare to the private sector?
Did the pay increases before 2010 match inflation? Did the pay rises in the late 1970s, under Labour, match inflation?

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by jfman

Ending the winter fuel payment for those not on Pension Credit will upset the blue rinse brigade.

And kill some, thus lowering the burdon on the public purse .

[Pierre]

It’s brilliant when you think about it. Give the doctors 22%, take winter payments away from pensioners.

Kill the pensioners, reduce the burden on the NHS.

The new nasty party.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Pierre

It’s brilliant when you think about it. Give the doctors 22%, take winter payments away from pensioners.

Kill the pensioners, reduce the burden on the NHS.

The new nasty party.

They've spent £24 billion in 24 days ,"things can only get better"

They're keeping the triple lock so pensioners will still be considerably better off relative to average income than when the winter fuel allowance was first brought in.

TBH It's politically toxic but they should just reverse the NI cuts the Tories did. It makes up for most of the shortfall.

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Mr K

14 years of incompetent Govt? Depends who they target, there's sections of society who've had it very well over the last decade, whilst others have struggled. We weren't 'all in it together' after all. Time to pay your dues.

I pay next to NOTHING, get yourself a good accountant, worth every penny. Really enjoyed visiting hmrc with one of them , don't know their own regulations .

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Originally Posted by Pierre

It’s brilliant when you think about it. Give the doctors 22%, take winter payments away from pensioners.

Kill the pensioners, reduce the burden on the NHS.

The new nasty party.

Did say be careful what you vote for and if you want to reduce the burden on NHS why pay the doctors the pay rise offer . Sorry the cost x £' s argument doesnt wash. They are not going to spend monies on catching up , and of cause some will die saving money

[denphone]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

They've spent £24 billion in 24 days ,"things can only get better"

And the previous government of 14 years cooked the books so much it left the new government with a almighty financial black hole that gets worse the more it reveals iself.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Itshim

Did say be careful what you vote for and if you want to reduce the burden

I didn’t vote for them.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Damien

They're keeping the triple lock so pensioners will still be considerably better off relative to average income than when the winter fuel allowance was first brought in.

TBH It's politically toxic but they should just reverse the NI cuts the Tories did. It makes up for most of the shortfall.

They'll be comming for the dissabled next,soft targets that can't fight back are always the easy targets.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

They'll be comming for the dissabled next,soft targets that can't fight back are always the easy targets.

No, they’re coming for your savings, your accumulated assets…………you’ll own nothing.

[jfman]

Total scaremongering.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by jfman

Total scaremongering.

He said the quiet part out loud before the election.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-for-millions/

They’re coming for everyone who has worked hard and bettered themselves.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

He said the quiet part out loud before the election.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-for-millions/

They’re coming for everyone who has worked hard and bettered themselves.

The only bit that Starmer actually said

During a radio interview on Tuesday, Sir Keir was asked what he meant by working people.
“People who earn their living, rely on our [public] services and don’t really have the ability to write a cheque when they get into trouble,” he told LBC.
“So the sort of people I’m meeting pretty well every day now. It’s quite a big group because these days there are many people obviously not so well off.”

Letter from the OBR today to the Treasury Select Committee.



tl:dr
- the Office of Budget Responsibility says it was unaware of 2024-25 spending pressures until this week (i.e not when it made its March forecast)
- points out it would be one of biggest in-year overspends on record
- launches review of "adequacy" of what HM Treasury told it before the March Budget...

[Taf]

Junior doctors label Labour's colossal 22 per cent pay offer 'ABYSMAL' and urge fellow medics to continue strikes until they get 35 per cent