New STM could be coming your way - Page 2

Elsie · 10-02-2009, 19:51

Oh well, I never go to bed before 1am so I'll just kick off downloads before I hit the sack.

Gotta admit I am getting really peeved at paying for a 20mb line and then they tell me I can't use it. Wonder what would happen if they started saying to people they can pay for Sky Sports but only watch 70% of a match?

*sloman* · 10-02-2009, 19:56

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Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground

I am too far from the exchange to get a decent Be* speed but they'd still be my first choice than this crappy throttled stuff.

Same here they offer 24mb but as i'm about 2km away i can only get 7-8mb.

With there double bonding trials i maybe able to get 12-13mb and a decent upload too!!!!

VM you are fools bring out QoS block all P2P programs at these times (Not Usenet though!).

You will also get a high five from the dreaded BPI too!

sniper007 · 10-02-2009, 20:24

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Originally Posted by *sloman*

Same here they offer 24mb but as i'm about 2km away i can only get 7-8mb.

With there double bonding trials i maybe able to get 12-13mb and a decent upload too!!!!

VM you are fools bring out QoS block all P2P programs at these times (Not Usenet though!).

You will also get a high five from the dreaded BPI too!

Interesting, I live 2.1km from my exchange and Ive done a couple of checks with sam knows and bt site, and both say max I can get is 4.5mbps. Did you get similar predictions and then were actually able to get more? Or did you get predicted 7mbps from the start?

broadbandking · 10-02-2009, 20:25

I am stuck with VM so too anyone who has a chance I say go for it

Kymmy · 10-02-2009, 20:27

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Originally Posted by sniper007

Interesting, I live 2.1km from my exchange and Ive done a couple of checks with sam knows and bt site, and both say max I can get is 4.5mbps. Did you get similar predictions and then were actually able to get more? Or did you get predicted 7mbps from the start?

Is that an ADSL or ADSL2 exchange?

*sloman* · 10-02-2009, 20:33

Mine is ADSL2+. ADSL only about 3.5-4.5mb

No i have been with Be* before

But back to the point i hope VM scrap this trial and go for Qos

sniper007 · 10-02-2009, 20:34

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Originally Posted by Kymmy

Is that an ADSL or ADSL2 exchange?

It's ADSL2 enabled.

*sloman* · 10-02-2009, 20:43

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Originally Posted by sniper007

It's ADSL2 enabled.

I dont think BT's site will show ADSL2+ speeds until 21CN is complete.

Go to Be* site https://www.bethere.co.uk/

this is what my phone number says

We've estimated that your maximum download speed is 7 meg .This is based on information BT gave us about your BT line. Actual download speeds depend on different things, like the distance between your telephone exchange and your home, or the quality of your BT line. We'll work with what's there and always give you the fastest speed we can, depending on your chosen package. Even then, your broadband speed might vary from time to time.

But i could get 10mb with a few tweaks but line was not very stable!

Kymmy · 10-02-2009, 20:52

My cute ikkle little exchange doesn't get it's grown up 21CN until approx Q2 2011

*sloman* · 10-02-2009, 20:56

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Originally Posted by Kymmy

My cute ikkle little exchange doesn't get it's grown up 21CN until approx Q2 2011

Well Derby was set for November 2008 but then some pikeys stole some of BT's 21CN equipment and the date was pushed back a few weeks later to March 2009.

2011 is not that bad i know some people on 1mb and have no date set and no VM access.

AppleSauce · 10-02-2009, 21:02

Don't know what to make of this, I am happy the Daytime STM is gone but at the same time the Saturday-Sunday STM worries me.

IMO 1250mb for 2MB users between 11:00 and 21:00 on a weekend is obscene!

Stabhappy · 10-02-2009, 21:04

I will gladly take this new STM over the one we currently have. In the end, it means that when we get STM'd at 20:30 we won't have to wait till 1:30 am so can ultimately push much more bandwidth. That and the fact there's no daytime management on weekdays.

The STM should be much more versatile though - only dipping users into STM if they have downloaded a set amount (much like now) and their is a problem with contention on the UBR (utilization at perhaps, 80-90%). This makes much more sense and ultimately means that virgin use their setups more efficiently.

fizgog · 10-02-2009, 21:05

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Our Traffic Management policy makes sure our service is fair for everybody, by occasionally moderating speeds for the top 5% of customers who are downloading and/or uploading an unusually large amount of data

Can someone explain the above quote to me as I'm a little confused, does it mean for example -

there are 1 million users in total, 5% download upto 50GB, 60% download upto 30GB, remaining 35% of users download upto 10GB.

Do the top 5% get stm'd only or once they are managed they are no longer the top 5% so the next 5% get stm'd and so on, which in effect stm'd everyone over the threshold

*sloman* · 10-02-2009, 21:13

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Originally Posted by fizgog

Can someone explain the above quote to me as I'm a little confused, does it mean for example -

there are 1 million users in total, 5% download upto 50GB, 60% download upto 30GB, remaining 35% of users download upto 10GB.

Do the top 5% get stm'd only or once they are managed they are no longer the top 5% so the next 5% get stm'd and so on, which in effect stm'd everyone over the threshold

Bingo!

Only Top 5% my ass, i think you have it bang on! more than 5% of 20mb customers download more than 3Gb.

We are paying for 20mb for 30-40mins between 4pm-9pm the caps kicks in and we are on 5mb for 5hrs

Turkey Machine · 10-02-2009, 22:01

Having read this thread and checked out the new STM limits, it appears those on 10Mbit get royally screwed at peak times. The claim that STM only affects the top 5% of users is utter bulls**t IMO and should be rescinded immediately before I put a complaint in to Ofcom, as it plainly doesn't from what I keep reading on the newsgroups and Cable Forum. So as a shared connection (10Mbit) in my flat between 5 machines, we'll probably hit the STM limits most days; it certainly feels that way during peak times.

The upload STM limit on 10Mbit is particularly bad; just on basic calculations and maxing the upload, you'll hit STM in just over 3 hours (700MB).

20Mbit customers get more than double the STM limit on download and upload. Seems they want everyone off 10Mbit and on 20Mbit and 50Mbit.

Frankly, it's a good job I kept my 2Mbit modem and it still works.