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broadbandking 10-02-2009 18:23

New STM could be coming your way
 
http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html...fficTrial.html

At the moment only preston has been annouced as a STM trial area.

They are looking at releasing everyone who is STM 'd @ 11pm so affectivly you can be STM'd for 7hrs from what I gather.

Weekday and weekend will have different limits.

To me I dont like this so much for not been limited on bandwidth.

So whats your views?

flashpaul 10-02-2009 18:36

Re: New STM could be coming your way
 
7 hours !

5 hours was bad enough but 7 is excessive

why don't they just have done with it and manage for 24 hours !

---------- Post added at 19:36 ---------- Previous post was at 19:28 ----------

I missed the bit at the weekends where you are managed for 10 hours !

Whats the point of having something you cant use at the weekend for 10 hours !

Pushkar 10-02-2009 18:40

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It sorta means that it's a bit better, Weekday wise you could download as much as you want till 4PM and then get capped if you download more after 4.

However, weekend wise nobody will be happy as its the whole day and it's really not alot before you get stm'd.

Kymmy 10-02-2009 18:48

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Although the throttle period is now longer, it though can be shorter as no matter when you trip STM it will turn off at 23:00

synner 10-02-2009 19:04

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Hello !

Oh how I love living in Preston..:rolleyes:

The weekend STM is a little harsh, 3Gb from morning till 9PM, no linux ISO's on the weekend !

Why is Preston only ever a trial area for the rubbish stuff..? Original STM, New STM limits.. 50Mb...? Not a sniff !

Bri

broadbandking 10-02-2009 19:05

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Thats the only postive thing but again these are trials so they can change at anytime

brundles 10-02-2009 19:11

Re: New STM could be coming your way
 
Oh goody - another attempt to make me pay more for the same amount I use my broadband for at the moment.

This changing of hours isn't about bandwidth usage (wasn't DOCSIS 3 supposed to help that?) but about encouraging people to upgrade based on what they download rather than how fast they can.

djmagnifique 10-02-2009 19:22

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Weekend download thresholds are actually 2 1/2 to 3 times more than during the week (average 600mb/hour during week, 750mb/hour at weekends on 20Mb connection)

All i'll do if I want to download something big during the stm times is start the download, wait a few minutes for it to settle down then see what the time remaining on it is, stop the download then start it later on so if i do get stm'd it won't be for very long.

AbyssUnderground 10-02-2009 19:26

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Why the hell will Ofcom not make it against the rules to advertise Unlimited when there are throttling such as Virgin Media's rules put in place? This is quite frankly getting [insert 7 extreme profanities here] stupid!!! :mad::mad::mad:

I pay for 10Mbps, I expect to get it when I need it, not when Virgin want to give me it. If virgin can't supply the speeds you pay for 24/7, they shouldn't bloody offer them!!! :mad::mad::mad:

I'd be much happier with a monthly cap than STM at this moment in time thats for damn sure! I am sick of re-arranging my downloading habits so Virgin can cut back their costs! I'm sorry but if this goes ahead Virgin can say a very firm goodbye to a 6+ year loyal customer!!! :mad::mad::mad:

Fatec 10-02-2009 19:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground (Post 34731360)
Why the hell will Ofcom not make it against the rules to advertise Unlimited when there are throttling such as Virgin Media's rules put in place? This is quite frankly getting [insert 7 extreme profanities here] stupid!!! :mad::mad::mad:

I pay for 10Mbps, I expect to get it when I need it, not when Virgin want to give me it. If virgin can't supply the speeds you pay for 24/7, they shouldn't bloody offer them!!! :mad::mad::mad:

I'd be much happier with a monthly cap than STM at this moment in time thats for damn sure! I am sick of re-arranging my downloading habits so Virgin can cut back their costs! I'm sorry but if this goes ahead Virgin can say a very firm goodbye to a 6+ year loyal customer!!! :mad::mad::mad:

It will go ahead...only thing that may change is the throttling times (anything from 10-12 hours is on the cards atm for weekends)

Oh and you need a better server, your speedtest is not very good...500KB/s from a 100Mbit connection...

AbyssUnderground 10-02-2009 19:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatec (Post 34731362)
It will go ahead...only thing that may change is the throttling times (anything from 10-12 hours is on the cards atm for weekends)

Oh and you need a better server, your speedtest is not very good...500KB/s from a 100Mbit connection...

Or perhaps its a local congestion issue, since I can pull my full 10Mbps at the moment. There isn't a capacity issue, see the provided graph.

Fatec 10-02-2009 19:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground (Post 34731364)
Or perhaps its a local congestion issue, since I can pull my full 10Mbps at the moment. There isn't a capacity issue, see the provided graph.

Tested on FTTH connection as well as dedi, both give out poor speeds.

As does ADSL2.

Doubt all have congestion issues :p:

AbyssUnderground 10-02-2009 19:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fatec (Post 34731367)
Tested on FTTH connection as well as dedi, both give out poor speeds.

As does ADSL2.

Doubt all have congestion issues :p:

I'll check for any datacenter issues but lets not discuss this here. This thread is to be angry with virgin not my server ;)

EDIT: Seems like 2x10Gbps of their AMSIX pipes are down, that could explain it. They're running on half capacity now.

*sloman* 10-02-2009 19:36

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Well i'm a VIP Virgin customer and pay something like £80 pm month. If this goes live bye bye Virgin!

I would rather have 7mb ADSL from Be* than 20mb stm during all the times i most use my PC.

Why should i have to leave the PC/Laptop on all night!

Its like buying a Bugatti Veyron and Bugatti saying we are going to limit it to 60mph!!!!!

The words i want to use i cant on here, but VM you are a bunch of (You insert the words)

Do this and you will lose most of your premium customers! Us fools who pay for 10-20MB.

This has put me off 50MB now as i'm sure there will now be a limit on this 'Mother of Broadband'. Cough: My ass!

AbyssUnderground 10-02-2009 19:39

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:clap: :clap:

I am too far from the exchange to get a decent Be* speed but they'd still be my first choice than this crappy throttled stuff.


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