11-06-2005, 14:04
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Re: Warning
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Originally Posted by Ignition
I very much doubt there's any organisation involved, far easier ways of doing this than asking on a forum.
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I would of thought the ones with "knowledge" would find it useful to have known official mac addresses for areas, or I guess the member asking may of been asking another member in his/her area.
Then again perhaps this cloning is a different method to the one I have been told about.
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11-06-2005, 14:11
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Ex SKY Engineer
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Re: Warning
if its ok by the mods i post the pm if im allowed to.
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11-06-2005, 14:38
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Re: Warning
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Originally Posted by Graham
So someone's phishing for MAC addresses?
Were they from MACPhisheries? 
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or MAC Donalds
Seriously though, some people must be crazy for trying something like this on a forum like this. It's always destined to fail...
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11-06-2005, 14:41
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Re: Warning
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Originally Posted by jonifen
Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
So someone's phishing for MAC addresses?
Were they from MACPhisheries? 
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or MAC Donalds
Seriously though, some people must be crazy for trying something like this on a forum like this. It's always destined to fail...
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It's even funnier when you think that all IP addresses are logged and you have to use a valid email address to join the forum
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11-06-2005, 14:55
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Re: Warning
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Originally Posted by Paul
It's even funnier when you think that all IP addresses are logged and you have to use a valid email address to join the forum 
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hadn't thought of the email lol, but aye... I know the IPs are logged
Should come in useful for NTL if it's an actual NTL IP address?
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11-06-2005, 14:55
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Re: Warning
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Originally Posted by Paul
It's even funnier when you think that all IP addresses are logged and you have to use a valid email address to join the forum 
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Some people think that a pc is just a 'box' in the corner!They dont realise that there is more to it than that.Some people are sooooo STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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11-06-2005, 15:00
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Re: Warning
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Originally Posted by Escapee
I would of thought the ones with "knowledge" would find it useful to have known official mac addresses for areas, or I guess the member asking may of been asking another member in his/her area.
Then again perhaps this cloning is a different method to the one I have been told about.
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Mac addresses are unique to the equipment and not a particular area. They identify that piece of equipment, the manufacturer, model No, etc. When NTL receive a batch of new modems they each have their own unique mac address and could end up in any part of the country. I have had batches of equipment arrive with mac addresses all being quite different from one another, not sequential numbering.
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11-06-2005, 15:30
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Re: Warning
Ok - just so people know. What if this had actually happened. The said mac WAS given out I mean.
What would your best course of action be? Call NTL and tell them? Not worry about it unless something happened?
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11-06-2005, 16:22
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Re: Warning
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Originally Posted by ian@huth
Mac addresses are unique to the equipment and not a particular area. They identify that piece of equipment, the manufacturer, model No, etc. When NTL receive a batch of new modems they each have their own unique mac address and could end up in any part of the country. I have had batches of equipment arrive with mac addresses all being quite different from one another, not sequential numbering.
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I am well aware of that, I also know how easy it is with some ethernet processor IC's to simply change the MAC address to anything you want.
This requires a little knowledge and downloading the datasheet for the device fitted to the modem.
The reason why I mentioned areas, is I am guessing the best area to install a modem with a spoofed MAC address would be off the same ubr as the genuine one. I would of thought it would make identification of the real modem from the illegal one difficult, as it wouldn't stand out like a sore thumb.
Thats why I think information on as many MAC addresses with areas as they can get would be useful.
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11-06-2005, 17:33
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Re: Warning
ok guys this is the message i got from that user.
"hi
i am installing broadband myself and i need the mac address from the bottom of your modem in order to set up my broadband according to my friend who says that because you live in herts and so do i
please help
awaiting your reply
******"
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11-06-2005, 17:46
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Re: Warning
Blikin cheek if you ask me! What could you do with it if do not mind me asking?? As it is a bit of a grey area for me!!
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11-06-2005, 17:48
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Re: Warning
They use it to get free broadband - on someone elses account.
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11-06-2005, 17:56
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Re: Warning
the cheeky blighters! I will keep my eye open!
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11-06-2005, 17:57
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Re: Warning
but how would they be able to change the mac tho cos if u go on to 192.168 100.1 there is no option to change it
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11-06-2005, 17:58
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Re: Warning
because their clever and there will be a way around it!
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