02-08-2003, 09:12
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hmmm looking atthe otions available is someone suggesting a 'cap' on fox hunting ?? eg if you exceed one fox per day you risk having your horn stuffed 
Edit: further thought:
If fox hunting had started after the introduction of computer games would people be blaming the games industry for having a detrimental effect on society
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02-08-2003, 16:11
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Originally posted by fraz
hmmm looking atthe otions available is someone suggesting a 'cap' on fox hunting ?? eg if you exceed one fox per day you risk having your horn stuffed 
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Was that person a Mr Goodland? lol
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02-08-2003, 21:17
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Originally posted by Alan Waddington
Off-topic discussion of Avril - it's getting tedious (a bit below the belt I know) 
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no one gives a damn about what your post just said except me and the above if you wish to discuss that pm me......
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I don't really have a problem with the fox population being controlled as I'm sure they are a menace to farmers, it's just the way they are controlled that bothers me....
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why shouldnt they be allowed to live
its like saying we should kill humans because they eat other animals
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02-08-2003, 21:20
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Originally posted by darkangel
true but the fox has a chance to escape and predators only kill what they eat, they don't rip apart animals for fun
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Actually the fox cant escape, its den is barred with wooden stakes, all the fox can do is run and run until its exhausted then the terrified animal has to wait and watch the pack of hounds came into view. It knows its number is up but has no energy to move. Thats when it has its flesh torn from its bones, able to feel everything for the last few seconds of its life.
And that people is why my uncle will not allow hunting on his property.
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02-08-2003, 21:21
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Originally posted by timewarrior2001
Actually the fox cant escape, its den is barred with wooden stakes, all the fox can do is run and run until its exhausted then the terrified animal has to wait and watch the pack of hounds came into view. It knows its number is up but has no energy to move. Thats when it has its flesh torn from its bones, able to feel everything for the last few seconds of its life.
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the above is true its totally barbaric
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02-08-2003, 22:43
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Originally posted by timewarrior2001
Actually the fox cant escape, its den is barred with wooden stakes, all the fox can do is run and run until its exhausted then the terrified animal has to wait and watch the pack of hounds came into view. It knows its number is up but has no energy to move. Thats when it has its flesh torn from its bones, able to feel everything for the last few seconds of its life.
And that people is why my uncle will not allow hunting on his property.
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umm think u've misread my post i was refering to wild animals being hunted by wild another animal not hunts.
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03-08-2003, 02:25
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I was shocked and disgusted when I saw how many people voted to not change the law. Do these same people want bear baiting dog fighting and any other barbaric and disgusting past time also brought back!!
I am sorry but in this day and age it makes me sad to see how cruel people can be
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03-08-2003, 02:30
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Originally posted by whyme38
I was shocked and disgusted when I saw how many people voted to not change the law. Do these same people want bear baiting dog fighting and any other barbaric and disgusting past time also brought back!!
I am sorry but in this day and age it makes me sad to see how cruel people can be
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I agree with your statement.
edit I thought & hoped that more people would have wanted it banned.
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03-08-2003, 11:38
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Problem is its not an issues that directly affects others, so many people will be thinking "whats the point anyway"
The only sure way to get people to back a ban on fox hunting is to show in graphic detail what happens to the fox as the pack of hounds rip it apart. Maybe then people will be sickened enough to ban it.
Either that or makes the posh knobs who want hunting......especially some of the snooty women I have come across run from the damned hounds.
Oh and BTW these reports of people being whipped by memebers of a hunt........it happens, they also damage fences and vehicles if they think they are in the way. For some reason they dont think they have to obey tresspass laws. Maybe if farmers started shooting at menebers of the hunt the common people could have sport of their own?
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06-08-2003, 20:45
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An interesting choice of words in choice 3, namely "No change". Now, if choice 3 read, "Continue to allow lovable, furry animals to be ripped to pieces by a slavering pack of hounds for the enjoyment of a howling mob of upper class twits", perhaps the number of people agreeing with choice 3 might be smaller.
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06-08-2003, 21:43
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Originally posted by Theodoric
An interesting choice of words in choice 3, namely "No change". Now, if choice 3 read, "Continue to allow lovable, furry animals to be ripped to pieces by a slavering pack of hounds for the enjoyment of a howling mob of upper class twits", perhaps the number of people agreeing with choice 3 might be smaller.
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howling mob of upper class twits & howling mob of upper class wannabes u mean
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06-08-2003, 21:53
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one trained marksman can do the job far more efficiently and humanely.
Set the hounds on the hunters I say and see how they get perverse pleasure from that!
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06-08-2003, 22:03
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Originally posted by TheBig1
Set the hounds on the hunters I say and see how they get perverse pleasure from that!
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what a splendid idea ol' chap
Quote:
Originally posted by Theodoric
An interesting choice of words in choice 3, namely "No change". Now, if choice 3 read, "Continue to allow lovable, furry animals to be ripped to pieces by a slavering pack of hounds for the enjoyment of a howling mob of upper class twits", perhaps the number of people agreeing with choice 3 might be smaller.
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very true
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06-08-2003, 22:20
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Originally posted by Theodoric
An interesting choice of words in choice 3, namely "No change". Now, if choice 3 read, "Continue to allow lovable, furry animals to be ripped to pieces by a slavering pack of hounds for the enjoyment of a howling mob of upper class twits", perhaps the number of people agreeing with choice 3 might be smaller.
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Mmmmm.. yes.. put that way would certainly would change the outcome of the voting..... however, using lovable, furry animals is no less emotive than using wild, destructive vermin to describe foxes 
And i certainly know people who don't consider foxes to be lovable  but simply see them as a threat to their fowl, but then these people also do not ride about on horses in hunting pink and have their dogs savage the fox either.... they attempt to shoot it if it comes near their animals.. which i suppose is reasonable.
The problem is that the word fox has been used in such a pejorative way throughout history that people do not see them as the relavitely innocent creatures that they are... from being sly and cunning to being the devil himself....
What chance do they really have?
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06-08-2003, 22:26
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Originally posted by kink
Mmmmm.. yes.. put that way would certainly would change the outcome of the voting..... however, using lovable, furry animals is no less emotive than using wild, destructive vermin to describe foxes 
And i certainly know people who don't consider foxes to be lovable but simply see them as a threat to their fowl, but then these people also do not ride about on horses in hunting pink and have their dogs savage the fox either.... they attempt to shoot it if it comes near their animals.. which i suppose is reasonable.
The problem is that the word fox has been used in such a pejorative way throughout history that people do not see them as the relavitely innocent creatures that they are... from being sly and cunning to being the devil himself....
What chance do they really have?
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maybe it's time farmers improved security on there chicken coups etc, the problem is most farmers see animals as walking meals or the see them as £ÃÆ ’‚£Ãà¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚£ not as living things
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