BBC vetting old sitcoms

[deadite66]

/me starts playing "an audience with alf garnet" video tape

[Shaun]

Good job "mind your language" wasn't made by the BBC then!

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Graham

Err, I don't know if you're aware, but this *has* happened in the past!

Many classical paintings had fig leaves added after they were finished and it's alleged that the Vatican has a basement storeroom *full* of stone genitalia that have been removed from statues and replaced by carved fig leaves.

Ouch!!

Thats why I used that example. I thought that it had been consigned to the past.

[punky]

I can see why new material being produced should be sensitive to people's feelings nowadays, but is there really any point in an episode that is 20 years old, and has been seen by 18m people? I mean, they didn't complain about it then, would they complain about it now? Everyone knows what was said originally.

Plus I think the whole paki-being-insult term is stupid. How can Pakistani be fine, when Paki not be? It's the same saying you call a briton, and that's fine. call me a brit, and i'll get you done for inciting racial hatred. If you were indian, I can see how it is an insult, but what about if you were pakistani? If any asians read this, i'd like to know how they really about it. Surely it is their point of view that counts, rather than, what I suspect are white bosses tryijng to patronise the public.

Surely, it is only going to get worse.

[Defiant]

I just feel a guest in my own country. People can call me for that but then again its proving my point. This sucks big time. The only good thing I see about it is doing the BNP more bussiness

[aliferste]

Originally Posted by punky

Plus I think the whole paki-being-insult term is stupid. How can Pakistani be fine, when Paki not be? It's the same saying you call a briton, and that's fine. call me a brit, and i'll get you done for inciting racial hatred.

Because it has generally been a derogatory term for people from Pakistan or India. Pakistanis dont call themselves Pakis the way we call ourselves Brits.
And just before someone starts saying that they overhear pakistani youngsters calling each other it I think its in the same way that Black people have retaken the word "nigger" for themselves.

[aliferste]

Originally Posted by Defiant

I just feel a guest in my own country. People can call me for that but then again its proving my point. This sucks big time. The only good thing I see about it is doing the BNP more bussiness

That always worries me when you say that Defiant.....that you feel a "guest" in your own country. I just dont understand where you are coming from?

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by aliferste

That always worries me when you say that Defiant.....that you feel a "guest" in your own country. I just dont understand where you are coming from?

He means that it doesn't feel like home anymore. You can't rely on the prevailing views to mirror your own any more because too many alien views are impinging on Englands culture and it's once self-evident norms.
Hell....I'm not English and even I can see it.

[Defiant]

Originally Posted by aliferste

That always worries me when you say that Defiant.....that you feel a "guest" in your own country. I just dont understand where you are coming from?

Check all the doe's and dont's agains't British people and if thats racist so be it I've had enough of feeling like this in my own country. Its stupid things like this which are going to lead to bloodshed

[aliferste]

Originally Posted by Defiant

Check all the doe's and dont's agains't British people and if thats racist so be it I've had enough of feeling like this in my own country. Its stupid things like this which are going to lead to bloodshed

Its hardly something to get that annoyed about though is it? I dont think they are going over the score, I mean its just the really offensive ones they are taking out.

Ach, there is not really that many dos and donts Defiant........hardly worth getting in a spin about it really......Dont think that voting in the BNP would help in the places they have been voted they did nowt.....didnt even show up for meetings.......maybe that is what being a true "Brit" is all about....."canae be arsed getting off ma lazy bum to do anything" and then moaning when all the jobs get sent overseas. Seems to be a common thing these days.

[Defiant]

Originally Posted by aliferste

Its hardly something to get that annoyed about though is it? I dont think they are going over the score, I mean its just the really offensive ones they are taking out.

Problem is its not just that. Over the years allot of this cr@p has been happening

Originally Posted by aliferste

maybe that is what being a true "Brit" is all about....."canae be arsed getting off ma lazy bum to do anything" and then moaning when all the jobs get sent overseas. Seems to be a common thing these days.

What jobs going overseas's I thought people were coming to this country for the jobs and the lazy arse's ere coming for the benefits and everything else they can get

[aliferste]

Originally Posted by Defiant

Problem is its not just that. Over the years allot of this cr@p has been happening

What jobs going overseas's I thought people were coming to this country for the jobs and the lazy arse's ere coming for the benefits and everything else they can get

All the call centre jobs and the manufacturing jobs going overseas.......were people work long hours for peanuts.

I dont see what people are coming here for the benefits, 30 bucks a week isnt actually something to send home now is it? Usually they say its something like people speak English here, or they know its a fair country ...

Its all been happening as attitudes are changing towards the way we look at the world and people in the world. Past injusticies are looked at and are tried to be rectified.....

Sometimes Defiant you remind me of an old person who complains of too many damn young people these days........its not there is more young people its that he is old!

[Defiant]

Originally Posted by aliferste

All the call centre jobs and the manufacturing jobs going overseas.......were people work long hours for peanuts.

But its not peanuts. There well paid jobs in India !

Originally Posted by aliferste

I dont see what people are coming here for the benefits, 30 bucks a week isnt actually something to send home now is it? Usually they say its something like people speak English here, or they know its a fair country ...

The one's that bring there whole family other here and jump que's to get council house's plus giros for cars I'd say are better off and they haven't paid a thing towards the kitty

Originally Posted by aliferste

Its all been happening as attitudes are changing towards the way we look at the world and people in the world. Past injusticies are looked at and are tried to be rectified.....

And the sh#t is going to hit the fan if this carry's on. Far too many people are getting p'd off at this

Originally Posted by aliferste

Sometimes Defiant you remind me of an old person who complains of too many damn young people these days........its not there is more young people its that he is old!

I'm just one of the few who speaks my mind and ruddy ****ed off at all these do gooders.

Here's another example,

BRITAINââ‚à ‚¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢S top judge was slammed yesterday over a politically correct legal handbook.

Lord Chief Justice Woolf warned judges not to use †œasylum seekerââ‚Ã⠀šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ÂÂ�, †œblack⠀ Â� and †œdisabledÃÂà ‚¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã‚ƚÂÂ� when describing people.

He also suggests neutral language such as †œtheyâà ƒÆ’¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚ � instead of †œheÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÆ ’¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚ÂÂÂ� or †œsheâà ƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã‚ÂÂÂ� †â€ÂÂÂ� and †œpostal workerââ‚Ã⠀šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ÂÂ� for †œpostmanà¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã‚ ÂÂ�.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004221097,00.html

[aliferste]

Originally Posted by Defiant

But its not peanuts. There well paid jobs in India !
The one's that bring there whole family other here and jump que's to get council house's plus giros for cars I'd say are better off and they haven't paid a thing towards the kitty
And the sh#t is going to hit the fan if this carry's on. Far too many people are getting p'd off at this


I'm just one of the few who speaks my mind and ruddy ****ed off at all these do gooders.

Here's another example,

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004221097,00.html

I dont want to turn this into another big asylum seeker debate thread Defiant, you know we have oposite views......but asylum seekers dont get giros for cars ......they are put in the council housing that noone wants anyway and basicaly all it does is raise the standard of the area as a bit of new blood is being put in.

If someone commits a crime why call them an asylum seeker.........is it because so much negative press has been aimed at them that most peoples opinions are clouded......yup!!


Ive just read the article........you see they are talking about context again Defiant..........the sun has taken a story , twisted it to make it look negative to rile people against what is a perfectly reasnable view.

[Defiant]

Originally Posted by aliferste

I dont want to turn this into another big asylum seeker debate thread Defiant, you know we have oposite views......but asylum seekers dont get giros for cars ......they are put in the council housing that noone wants anyway and basicaly all it does is raise the standard of the area as a bit of new blood is being put in.

Its nice to know there are so many gullible people about that believe that rubbish. Oh and there are Giro's going about for 3 grand. Its been discussed on a radio talk show at length (people have seen them and know of people who have had them) plus I know someone who's in the car business and had one of these to pay for a vehicle. They got the vehicle for much less than that figure but wanted the left over cash mind. You should do more result instead do being so gullible. It would seem the tell the DSS that they cannot use public transport because of the language problem or there being victimised etc