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			I don't know whether this deserves a new thread or not but what do we all think would have happened if ntl and telewest had never combined? We all dreamt of a potential company which could compete with Sky. We have a company which rolls over hoping for scraps from Sky. We are secondary to BT even now and will soon lose our killer attraction to virgin media (free bt sports) 
 All these failures occurred once the take over with the very suspicious European cable company occurred who I still have suspicions over about their need to sell etc. but since this company utterly failed to take advantage of their position as second biggest TV provider at the time would we all have been in a stronger position staying as ntl and telewest?
 
 Less threatening
 More companies for Sky and bt to deal with
 
 The position of "strength" being with virgin media and Liberty has led to higher bills and more channels being withheld. It's done nothing for us all let's be honest
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					Originally Posted by vincerooney  I don't know whether this deserves a new thread or not but what do we all think would have happened if ntl and telewest had never combined? We all dreamt of a potential company which could compete with Sky. We have a company which rolls over hoping for scraps from Sky. We are secondary to BT even now and will soon lose our killer attraction to virgin media (free bt sports) 
 All these failures occurred once the take over with the very suspicious European cable company occurred who I still have suspicions over about their need to sell etc. but since this company utterly failed to take advantage of their position as second biggest TV provider at the time would we all have been in a stronger position staying as ntl and telewest?
 
 Less threatening
 More companies for Sky and bt to deal with
 
 The position of "strength" being with virgin media and Liberty has led to higher bills and more channels being withheld. It's done nothing for us all let's be honest
 |  Living and bravo would probably never of got sold off for a start sky did a crap thing closing BRAVO imo.
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		|  19-05-2015, 18:33 | #2253 |  
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					Originally Posted by vincerooney  The position of "strength" being with virgin media and Liberty has led to higher bills and more channels being withheld. It's done nothing for us all let's be honest |  "What have the Romans ever done for us?"
 
So cast your mind back, Vince.  How many channels did you have with Telewest?
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					Originally Posted by spiderplant  "What have the Romans ever done for us?"
 So cast your mind back, Vince.  How many channels did you have with Telewest?
 |  I can remember with the old Jerrold analog box on ntl, IIRC 40 channels but those of us with a multiband multistandard TV could tune many directly.    
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					Originally Posted by heero_yuy  I can remember with the old Jerrold analog box on ntl, IIRC 40 channels but those of us with a multiband multistandard TV could tune many directly.   |  We had one of those, even after the box was removed we could tune lots of channels by connecting the cable to the back.
 
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					Originally Posted by vincerooney  I don't know whether this deserves a new thread or not but what do we all think would have happened if ntl and telewest had never combined? We all dreamt of a potential company which could compete with Sky. We have a company which rolls over hoping for scraps from Sky. We are secondary to BT even now and will soon lose our killer attraction to virgin media (free bt sports) 
 All these failures occurred once the take over with the very suspicious European cable company occurred who I still have suspicions over about their need to sell etc. but since this company utterly failed to take advantage of their position as second biggest TV provider at the time would we all have been in a stronger position staying as ntl and telewest?
 
 Less threatening
 More companies for Sky and bt to deal with
 
 The position of "strength" being with virgin media and Liberty has led to higher bills and more channels being withheld. It's done nothing for us all let's be honest
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		|  19-05-2015, 22:33 | #2257 |  
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					Originally Posted by Media Boy  We feel that half of them testing are the missing HD channels from UPC Ireland. |  I hope so. I could do with any new channels: those include Fox News and all-you-can-eat +1's and shopping channels (apart from hefty price rises).
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					Originally Posted by vincerooney   We are secondary to BT even now and will soon lose our killer attraction to virgin media (free bt sports) |   VM's killer attraction is its broadband speed which its competitors don't match, not BT Sport. 152Mb may not be necessary for everyone but it's definitely VM's unique feature. Tivo is a unique feature to a lesser extent these days as is VM's quadruple play offering of broadband, telephony, TV and mobile.
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  VM's killer attraction is its broadband speed which its competitors don't match, not BT Sport. 152Mb may not be necessary for everyone but it's definitely VM's unique feature. Tivo is a unique feature to a lesser extent these days as is VM's quadruple play offering of broadband, telephony, TV and mobile. |  BIB
 
Unless you're in an oversubscribed area, like me, or the plethora of other people who complain about it on the VM forums.
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					Originally Posted by 1andrew1  VM's killer attraction is its broadband speed which its competitors don't match, not BT Sport. 152Mb may not be necessary for everyone but it's definitely VM's unique feature. Tivo is a unique feature to a lesser extent these days as is VM's quadruple play offering of broadband, telephony, TV and mobile. |  I think this will change in the near future already bt are already testing 300mbs and some companys are testing 1gbs speeds whereas vm are testing 250mbs.
 
Interestingly to throw another spanner into vms works plusnets tv is only £5p/m ok only 15 channels and no Sky channels at moment but for  £3p/m extra you can get HD channels too, they use youview will be interesting to see what happens.
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					Originally Posted by theone2k10  I think this will change in the near future already bt are already testing 300mbs and some companys are testing 1gbs speeds whereas vm are testing 250mbs.
 Interestingly to throw another spanner into vms works plusnets tv is only £5p/m ok only 15 channels and no Sky channels at moment but for  £3p/m extra you can get HD channels too, they use youview will be interesting to see what happens.
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		|  20-05-2015, 12:26 | #2262 |  
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					Originally Posted by devilincarnate  I thought that VM were testing 400MB and also 1GB in london? |  This article from Sep 2014
 
They trialing 1GB in other places too...
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					Originally Posted by devilincarnate  I thought that VM were testing 400MB and also 1GB in london? |  They could be but i've only been told upto 250mbs 1 unnamed company is testing 1gbs down 1gbs up with a potential to increase it to 2.5gbs if tests go well. 
250mbs could be VMs nationwide testing and maybe 1gbs, 400mbs in big cities such as London. 
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					Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj   |  Maybe vm are the unnamed company my source is refering too.
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			What exactly do we need those kind of speeds for currently ?
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		|  20-05-2015, 13:18 | #2265 |  
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					Originally Posted by muppetman11  What exactly do we need those kind of speeds for currently ? |  Erm.....for illegal downloads??     
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