Another protest against plans for a new mosque - Page 13

**Hugh** · 09-04-2010, 21:00

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Here it is again. I think they may overlook it because they don't want any ill feeling towards muslims wanting to go to the mosque. by accepting there's a problem can mean having to accept responsibility for the problem. they're probably not getting many complaints from the residents but only outsiders so don't feel they need to take any action and can carry on ignoring it?

Sure you've got enough surmises in there?

Go on, admit it - you're making it up as you go along, aren't you?

Gary L · 09-04-2010, 21:35

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Originally Posted by foreverwar

Sure you've got enough surmises in there?

For now. if you need any more just give us a shout.

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Go on, admit it - you're making it up as you go along, aren't you?

That's not my style

TheDaddy · 09-04-2010, 23:36

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Originally Posted by broadbandking

Question is where is money coming from to build the mosque, tax payers?

Probably not tax payers, the faithful at best, foreign governments at worst.

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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

Traffic wardens not wanting to clamp illegally parked cars because the owners are at the mosque? How rubbish. I'd like to see you back that up with some credible information as opposed to it being just another one of your stupid opinions which you present as fact.

Traffic wardens don't clamp, interestingly though a clamping firm I know of used to target a Mosque on fridays because they knew a lot of it's congregation would park in their clients private car park over the road.

frogstamper · 10-04-2010, 02:16

Blimey Gary have you never heard the expression "stop digging"?
You have presented your own biased opinion as a nudge, nudge wink wink fact, and you wonder why people take issue with you.

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Originally Posted by Gary

It maybe my opinion to you now because there's nothing else to give you. can you present facts to state it's otherwise? or is it just your opinion without any basis for thinking that?

How on earth can anybody come back at a response like that?

Gary L · 10-04-2010, 07:53

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Originally Posted by frogstamper

Blimey Gary have you never heard the expression "stop digging"?
You have presented your own biased opinion as a nudge, nudge wink wink fact, and you wonder why people take issue with you.

Everybodies opinion is biased in some way to another that doesn't agree with the same. if anyone takes issue then that's because I may not agree with them. which is not always going to happen in life.

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How on earth can anybody come back at a response like that?

Nobody has to. it's optional.

Russ · 10-04-2010, 08:27

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Everybodies opinion is biased in some way to another that doesn't agree with the same. if anyone takes issue then that's because I may not agree with them. which is not always going to happen in life.

What he means is you constantly hint at your viewpoint and as long as no-one questions you then you run with it. If anyone challenges you you always answer "where did I say that".

It makes any kind of discussion that you start off pretty unworkable.

Gary L · 10-04-2010, 08:38

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Originally Posted by Russ

What he means is you constantly hint at your viewpoint and as long as no-one questions you then you run with it.

What's wrong with that? should I have to change my opinion because others question it?
would you change yours if I didn't agree with it?

Russ · 10-04-2010, 08:48

Nobody is saying you need to change your opinion. I'm not going in to it any further as we'd be way off-topic and it would be bordering personal. But I'm not the only person to see it.

papa smurf · 10-04-2010, 08:55

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Originally Posted by Russ

Nobody is saying you need to change your opinion. I'm not going in to it any further as we'd be way off-topic and it would be bordering personal. But I'm not the only person to see it.

sounds like Gary L and you have differing opinions -that's the basis of a good debate -isn't it ?

10-04-2010, 09:02

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Originally Posted by Russ

What he means is you constantly hint at your viewpoint and as long as no-one questions you then you run with it. If anyone challenges you you always answer "where did I say that".

It makes any kind of discussion that you start off pretty unworkable.

but this thread is approaching 200 posts now though

Shame Gary made the vote multiple choice as some people have obviously got more than one opinion on this( somehow) but it is interesting though to see the percentage of those who have voted.

It says to me there are more people whose views are similar to mine but maybe do not speak them because of how it is percieved

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The second and the third option in the vote are pretty much the same also

Gary L · 10-04-2010, 09:26

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Originally Posted by zing

Shame Gary made the vote multiple choice as some people have obviously got more than one opinion on this( somehow) but it is interesting though to see the percentage of those who have voted.

It's interesting that only 9 out of 69 said yes they can buld one where I live.. you would think there would be more. well you wouldn't, but the opportunity was there

10-04-2010, 09:28

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Originally Posted by Gary L

It's interesting that only 9 out of 69 said yes they can buld one where I live.. you would think there would be more. well you wouldn't, but the opportunity was there

I would guess that pretty much everyone who has a go at every post you make in the same way would have voted against your stance .Although there is a chance some of those wouldnt actually want a Mosque that close to them if they were honest

Most people I speak to pretty much share my view and I associate with a cross section of society from well to do people to dossers lol and as I said most agree with me

10-04-2010, 09:31

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Originally Posted by Gary L

It's interesting that only 9 out of 69 said yes they can buld one where I live.. you would think there would be more. well you wouldn't, but the opportunity was there

yes i find the results interesting despite the usual protestations from the liberals amongst us most people (who voted)have said a big fat NO

papa smurf · 10-04-2010, 09:38

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Originally Posted by martyh

yes i find the results interesting despite the usual protestations from the liberals amongst us most people (who voted)have said a big fat NO

i voted no but that won't surprise anyone ,its so strange that the fluffies haven't out-weighed that vote -i'm getting the feeling they mostly voted no for the same reasons i did .

10-04-2010, 09:45

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

i voted no but that won't surprise anyone ,its so strange that the fluffies haven't out-weighed that vote -i'm getting the feeling they mostly voted no for the same reasons i did .

I think they are the minority opinion in the none Muslim white world only the none Muslim white world have a tendency not to speak out as they get branded bigoted or racist ( wrongly in the case of the Muslim discussions) or discriminative