Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2011) Vol. I. - Page 124

virginruinedntl · 03-03-2011, 19:53

tivo will be given to everyone? Those boxes must cost rather alot for virgin, the V+ HD boxes are mpeg4 compatible, surely those are good enough?

Digital Fanatic · 03-03-2011, 20:01

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Originally Posted by virginruinedntl

tivo will be given to everyone? Those boxes must cost rather alot for virgin, the V+ HD boxes are mpeg4 compatible, surely those are good enough?

VM are investing in their network/platform

kgollop · 03-03-2011, 20:04

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Originally Posted by virginruinedntl

tivo will be given to everyone? Those boxes must cost rather alot for virgin, the V+ HD boxes are mpeg4 compatible, surely those are good enough?

The Samsung one maybe (?), but the SA V+ certainly isn't mpeg4 compatible.

RichardCoulter · 03-03-2011, 20:16

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Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic

No, M+ is the bottom pack now.

I understand that M is still available by going through retentions.

Digital Fanatic · 03-03-2011, 20:20

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I understand that M is still available by going through retentions.

Only if Customer Relations choose to allow it. You can't just request it.

It's not available otherwise.

Peter_ · 03-03-2011, 20:20

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I understand that M is still available by going through retentions.

With the channels available on that package you would be better getting a freeview box from the local supermarket and sticking an aerial in the loft.

Big-Ted · 03-03-2011, 20:28

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Originally Posted by mersey70

If you think about it logically why should a premium sports channel be included in XL, it's basically forcing it on you whether you like it or not.

And forcing you to pay for it too as we know it isn't free.

It just seems very inflexible given they are saying they cannot afford certain general HD channels which is surely what the XL pack should be all about. I would guess ESPN must get at least a few quid each month off every XL customer.

Just my opinion though.

But the history for this reads differently.

Setanta was added to XL at no extra charge for us.

Setanta went out of business, ESPN took over their content for most things.

ESPN continued where Setanta left off being part of the XL package still with no extra charge.

So how are we paying for it

OK if they made it a pay channel it would free up some money but who knows what the deal was and how much ?

Might be just enough for one extra HD channel and the lost of an HD channel from XL.......

jtaylor06 · 03-03-2011, 23:15

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Originally Posted by virginruinedntl

tivo will be given to everyone? Those boxes must cost rather alot for virgin, the V+ HD boxes are mpeg4 compatible, surely those are good enough?

Also it would make sense since then Virgin will have only one or two middleware's to maintain providing that the V-HD box gets a Lite Tivo version or something Tivo-esque.

If that makes sense?

ncfc1902 · 04-03-2011, 00:07

I would rather keep ESPN/ESPN HD in TV XL than have Sky Atlantic or any of the "missing" HD channels.

gaz2810i · 04-03-2011, 00:34

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Originally Posted by ncfc1902

I would rather keep ESPN/ESPN HD in TV XL than have Sky Atlantic or any of the "missing" HD channels.

Agree with this except for the Sky Atlantic bit

passingbat · 04-03-2011, 00:41

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Originally Posted by ncfc1902

I would rather keep ESPN/ESPN HD in TV XL .

I think you should pay for it outside of XL as it is a pemium channel.

Why should non sports fans subsidise sports fans?

**Maggy** · 04-03-2011, 00:51

Lay off ESPN in the XL package.It's the only reason my other half won't reduce our package.If he did I'd say goodbye to Syfy,,FX and other channels I actually quite like to watch.

If anyone wants to get rid of anything how about the Challenge channels..or the sales channels.

passingbat · 04-03-2011, 01:18

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

Lay off ESPN in the XL package.It's the only reason my other half won't reduce our package.If he did I'd say goodbye to Syfy,,FX and other channels I actually quite like to watch.

If anyone wants to get rid of anything how about the Challenge channels..or the sales channels.

Don't you have as much of a right to have XL for "Syfy,,FX and other channels I actually quite like to watch" if it didn't contain ESPN, as he has to have XL because it has currently has got ESPN?

mersey70 · 04-03-2011, 08:31

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Originally Posted by Big-Ted

But the history for this reads differently.

Setanta was added to XL at no extra charge for us.

Setanta went out of business, ESPN took over their content for most things.

ESPN continued where Setanta left off being part of the XL package still with no extra charge.

So how are we paying for it

OK if they made it a pay channel it would free up some money but who knows what the deal was and how much ?

Might be just enough for one extra HD channel and the lost of an HD channel from XL.......

Ok let me word it differently.

ESPN is a pay (premium) channel and that's the point. It is a premium channel if you don't have XL. It's a great offer if you want it, no doubt about that but you cannot possibly think it is free when it is a stand alone channel otherwise.

23 live and exclusive Barclays Premier League games, FA Cup, Scottish Premier League, Guinness Premiership and on and on. There is no way that content comes cheap. And as I said on another thread all that included proves just how good value XL is, but only if you want ESPN.

XL is fantastic value, it really is and I have never said otherwise but part of that sub pays for ESPN, otherwise why is ESPN upto Â£8 a month?

Another thought, I wonder what will happen if (as is highly likely) ESPN get more Premier League packages in the future, will it still be included in XL? Pure speculation on my behalf but when Setanta had two packages included in XL what happened, I don't need to tell you.

We'll see, don't think for one moment I am slagging off XL other than I feel it is inflexible, that's all.

I am happy for the current model to continue but I would very much welcome the choice of having an additional HD sub for basic HD channels, that's all as it seems it is the only way we can get them and I honestly think it would increase VM's appeal.

Just my opinion.

brooza · 04-03-2011, 08:50

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Originally Posted by passingbat

Why should non sports fans subsidise sports fans?

Why should non arts fans subsidise arts fans?

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

If anyone wants to get rid of anything how about the Challenge channels..or the sales channels.

I think the channels pay VM for carriage, so we'd be worse off!