my website - Page 3

Flobajob · 20-07-2006, 13:42

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Originally Posted by Zeph

Different people share a different school of thought but that doesn't matter, I agree with most of what has been said. It looks more like a holding page than a web "site"

I might be a web design Nazi but I don't think there's ever any excuse for a non-CSS, non-validating business web site/page. CSS layouts are far easier to build and maintain, they're normally a lot smaller in file size and the lack of extra tables/tr/td tags on the page helps a lot with SEO.

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Originally Posted by Damien

I use Dreamweaver (HTML & CSS) for my sites

On this page http://www.do39.com/vc/webdesign.htm you're going on about the importance of validation, but the page itself doesn't validate

**Damien** · 20-07-2006, 13:47

mmmm thats odd. Validated before. Something to do with using the same div tags twice.

**Maggy** · 20-07-2006, 14:08

OK.I'm going to say to ALL of the so called adults on this page..Shame on you all...

I value contructive criticism.I don't value belittling people who haven't the same expertise as you and to do it to young people in this way is outrageous.How many of you suffered from teachers who did exactly the same thing?Why repeat the experience in CF?I thought the ethos if this site was to be helpful in a CONTSTRUCTIVE manner.

Miss is very disappointed by this thread.

Flobajob · 20-07-2006, 14:21

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Originally Posted by Incognitas

OK.I'm going to say to ALL of the so called adults on this page..Shame on you all...

I value contructive criticism.I don't value belittling people who haven't the same expertise as you and to do it to young people in this way is outrageous.How many of you suffered from teachers who did exactly the same thing?Why repeat the experience in CF?I thought the ethos if this site was to be helpful in a CONTSTRUCTIVE manner.

Miss is very disappointed by this thread.

He came on inferring that he, as a 13 year old could create a good site, he was wrong and has had it pointed out to him. (If he didn't want criticism he should have posted a link to his site).

I suspect that you don't really have anything to add in respect of the actual theme of this thread so why don't you go berate people in a different one?

LemonyBrainAid · 20-07-2006, 14:44

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Originally Posted by handyman

I'm not sure It even qualifies as a webpage.

It has no hyperlinks and is basically a static non interactive , mis-leading picture.

Wow. How fast you are to jump on my errors, instead of checking your own.

How many errors did dmay.info have on the validation test on w3? 6.. wasn't it ?

http://www.purplegriffon.com/ - 10 errors
http://www.nthwclan.co.uk/ - A whopping 36!

Hmm... Didn't you design both of those ? Oh, and purplegriffon has the validity image, when it isn't .. actually valid.

See how easy it is to be critical and not offer any constructive criticism?

Flobajob · 20-07-2006, 14:47

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Originally Posted by LemonyBrainAid

Wow. How fast you are to jump on my errors, instead of checking your own.

How many errors did dmay.info have on the validation test on w3? 6.. wasn't it ?

http://www.purplegriffon.com/ - 10 errors
http://www.nthwclan.co.uk/ - A whopping 36!

Hmm... Didn't you design both of those ? Oh, and purplegriffon has the validity image, when it isn't .. actually valid.

See how easy it is to be critical and not offer any constructive criticism?

I think there's a slight difference between his and yours, his site actually has content and much more to validate.

MovedGoalPosts · 20-07-2006, 14:50

OK people time for a chill pill please. No flaming of each other

LemonyBrainAid · 20-07-2006, 14:53

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Originally Posted by Flobajob

I think there's a slight difference between his and yours, his site actually has content and much more to validate.

Pfft. Who are you anyway ?

I'm also guessing, from your egotistical attitude, that all of the websites you own are completely and utterly flawless and have been validated by w3?

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Originally Posted by Rob C

OK people time for a chill pill please. No flaming of each other

We aren't flaming - we're not in caps...

We're having a discussion.

**Damien** · 20-07-2006, 14:56

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Pfft. Who are you anyway ?

I'm also guessing, from your egotistical attitude, that all of the websites you own are completely and utterly flawless and have been validated by w3?

The problem is the more content and pages you have the harder it is to validate. BBC is one of the best sites on the web and not all of its pages vailidate. I never put the seal on my sites anymore because as you saw before its very hard to ensure 100% validation all the time.

MovedGoalPosts · 20-07-2006, 15:00

In defence of Handyman, he's actually had very little to do with the NTHWclan site to date. Indeed that site is very much being changed and added to as it is built. The content bears no resemblance to the stuff that was there last month. Not throwing stones at people in glasshouses but I wonder how well the other clan site does?

I think all this thread is showing is the difficulty people face in achieving good web design. It's not just having interesting content, it's also having interesting layout with reasonable code behind it. What should be done is encouragement for those prepared to have a go, whether by use of raw code, or integrated tools, and constructive help, if something isn't right to help improve it.

Flobajob · 20-07-2006, 15:01

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Originally Posted by LemonyBrainAid

Pfft. Who are you anyway ?

Who am I? Who are you? A 13 year old with an attitude problem by the look of it.

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I'm also guessing, from your egotistical attitude, that all of the websites you own are completely and utterly flawless and have been validated by w3?

Every single one of them, it's not difficult to achieve, it's not as if the validator doesn't tell you where you've messed up.

NitroNutter · 20-07-2006, 15:03

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Originally Posted by Incognitas

OK.I'm going to say to ALL of the so called adults on this page..Shame on you all... I value contructive criticism.I don't value belittling people who haven't the same expertise as you and to do it to young people in this way is outrageous.How many of you suffered from teachers who did exactly the same thing?Why repeat the experience in CF?I thought the ethos if this site was to be helpful in a CONTSTRUCTIVE manner. Miss is very disappointed by this thread.

The problem to me was what the page was putting across to a visitor, yet was very apparently either not so or the site was coded in such a way it did not fit in with the info on the page and what it was potentially appearing to try to sell. Beleive it or not but many people have been taken for 1000's from similar claims by people of all ages who end up not delivering.

Now if the page is to be believed that this 13 year old is an expert in all that software the page portraying such statements needs to support them, wether they be true or not.

20-07-2006, 15:09

I had a fantastic collection of conkers and I could do a damn fine castle on the etch-a-sketch when I was 13 btw, of no relevance to the thread of course but I thought I would share my experience of being 13 with you all.

Perrmission to carry on

LemonyBrainAid · 20-07-2006, 15:12

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Originally Posted by Rob C

Not throwing stones at people in glasshouses but I wonder how well the other clan site does?

If you classify that as "throwing stones at people in glasshouses" then by all means, please do so - Ours has been in development for a month or so now and is very very near to being completed.

A mere 7 errors on the w3 validation - which will be fixed.

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Originally Posted by NitroNutter

Now if the page is to be believed that this 13 year old is an expert in all that software the page portraying such statements needs to support them, wether they be true or not.

Which is why I am working on a new layout - I do believe a portfolio is needed...

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Originally Posted by Flobajob

Who am I? Who are you? A 13 year old with an attitude problem by the look of it.

Hah! No, I'm probrably the only 13 year old you know that can actually defend himself when someone attempts to belittle him...

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Originally Posted by Flobajob

Every single one of them, it's not difficult to achieve, it's not as if the validator doesn't tell you where you've messed up.

Links ?

Flobajob · 20-07-2006, 15:16

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Originally Posted by LemonyBrainAid

If you classify that as "throwing stones at people in glasshouses" then by all means, please do so - Ours has been in development for a month or so now and is very very near to being completed.

A mere 7 errors on the w3 validation - which will be fixed.

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Which is why I am working on a new layout - I do believe a portfolio is needed...

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Hah! No, I'm probrably the only 13 year old you know that can actually defend himself when someone attempts to belittle him...

Links ?

If I give you links, you'll end up with all my contact details, I'm slightly dubious about giving them out to a 13 year old who needs a large dose of Ritalin.