Sky Broadband

[James Henry]

Originally Posted by Paul M

There is nothing sweeping about it - I never said anything about all BT lines, I was clearly referring to my BT overhead fed line, which was very dodgy before I moved to ntl (and is one of the reasons I moved).

My apologies you didn't give the impression of being specific.

unlimited, that checker is pretty conservative:

ADSL is available in your area
Your exchange is also enabled for ADSL Max services
According to BT Wholesale, your line should be able to support a 6.5Mbps or greater ADSL connection via ADSL Max.


Downstream7,559.6 Kbps( = 7.4 Mbps )
Upstream477.3 Kbps( = 0.5 Mbps )

Most lines do 4+ Mbit.

[Paul K]

Originally Posted by unlimited

For those that think they will get the full speed on ADSL i suggest you put you BT number in here and check. I bet most of you will get 4 meg or less.And remember all of these speeds are for a BT line that is 1.35km line of sight 2.4 km true distance.

We're less than 1Km from our Exchange (LOS) as it's just round the corner from our street lol According to Sam we should get at least 6 meg but since our line is a bit old I think we might struggle to get full speed (although while I was at BT I line checked our telephone line and it came up nice and clean on the tests )

[Skatoony]

Can anyone explain this - If I was to go for the Max package, do I need to pay the £10 montly fee AND the BT line rental fee?

[BillyDrago]

Originally Posted by Electrolyte

Can anyone explain this - If I was to go for the Max package, do I need to pay the £10 montly fee AND the BT line rental fee?

Yes - if I'm reading it right you will pay £10 for the BB, £11.99 (I think) for BT line rental, and then £5 for the SkyTalk (optional). From Q4 2006 (according to the Sky presentation), there will be a bundle that gives you line rental and SkyTalk for £14.

I'm very tempted by this - I currently pay about £80 per month for NTL 4MB, TV and Phone. If I switch to Sky I could get better TV, 16MB BB, and a better phone package for about £60. Even assuming that the 16MB quoted is optimistic, it's likely to be better than the roughly 3MB service I get now. Seems worth getting my BT phone line reactivated for.

The only potential downsides I can see are no VOD (not a huge issue), and the possibility of a less solid wireless connection (I currently have a Belkin pre-N setup that works a dream).

[LostintheNW]

This sky offer sounds very good! although I am only paying £9 for my 10meg service from NTL so can't complain really. Wonder if this will encourage NTL/Telewest to up their speeds?

[zrerz]

Just had the letter from Sky, re. the broadband, you have to laugh at whoever writes this stuff, as acording to the letter, I'm not in a area covered by their network, even though I'm with UK Online which is easynet, and both now owned by Sky?
I get the maximum speed of 22meg too.

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by LostintheNW

This sky offer sounds very good! although I am only paying £9 for my 10meg service from NTL so can't complain really. Wonder if this will encourage NTL/Telewest to up their speeds?

I shouldn't think so. Unless you live ontop of the exchange, you're highly unlikely to get more that half that speed....So I doubt that ntl/telewest are quaking in their boots about the speed just yet....

[jtwn]

ntl probably will make a point of ADSL being a distance relative tech compared to their cable like recently with announcement.

Considering the time it will take to get this show up and running, ntl will hopefully be offering many times faster speeds with the bonding technologies to be taken advantage of.

[James Henry]

Originally Posted by orangebird

I shouldn't think so. Unless you live ontop of the exchange, you're highly unlikely to get more that half that speed....So I doubt that ntl/telewest are quaking in their boots about the speed just yet....

I wouldn't bet on that at all... over 50% of people connected to an ADSL2+ enabled exchange will get over 10Mbit on it, fact

25% or so will be blessed with >16Mbit

[RealDiamond]

capped 2meg BT ADSL line, Odear, i use up 2gb just from apple.com (Front row)HD trailers never mind any software updates.
£5 for 8meg + £11 For BT phone line. but i cant get 8meg BT ADSL line only 2Meg :?:

[grubbymitts]

From the site Unlimited posted on page 2:

BT ADSL broadband availability
You are connected to the Newcastle telephone exchange.

ADSL is available in your areaYour exchange is also enabled for ADSL Max services
According to BT Wholesale, your line should be able to support a 3.5Mbps or greater ADSL connection via ADSL Max.

Standard ADSL RAG results:
You cannot receive 2Mbps ADSLYou may be able to receive 1Mbps ADSLYou can receive 512Kbps ADSLYou can receive 256Kbps ADSL
You are approximately 3.07km from the exchange (straight line distance).


Hmm...well, that's rubbish on two points:

1) I can't get 2mb? eek
2) 3.7km away? Erm, no. The exchange is 3 streets away. I can spit at it from my upstairs window.

Still, I realise that it's the old UKOnline network, but, let's face it, I feel a disturbance in downloading known as Traffic Shaping will be on the horizon. £10 for unlimited upto 16mb download - call me cynical, but there's no way. Roll on NTL with their price cuts. At the mo I have stable 4mb at a reasonable price. If they up me to 10, 16 or whatever, replace this 120 modem and cut my price then I'll stay with them.

[James Henry]

Originally Posted by RealDiamond

capped 2meg BT ADSL line, Odear, i use up 2gb just from apple.com (Front row)HD trailers never mind any software updates.
£5 for 8meg + £11 For BT phone line. but i cant get 8meg BT ADSL line only 2Meg :?:

Who says you can only get 2Mbit? Up to 8 is available to over 99% of the UK, line distance allowing. If you can get 2Mbit under the old ADSL scheme you should be fine for at least 4 on the newer one.

Not that it matters anyway as it'd be £17 for that + the line rental for the BT line, so if you don't have a landline already it doesn't work for you.

[kronas]

BT ADSL broadband availability
You are connected to the Heckmondwike telephone exchange.

ADSL is available in your area
Your exchange is also enabled for ADSL Max services

According to BT Wholesale, your line should be able to support a 6.5Mbps or greater ADSL connection via ADSL Max.

Standard ADSL RAG results:
You can receive 2Mbps ADSL
You can receive 1Mbps ADSL
You can receive 512Kbps ADSL
You can receive 256Kbps ADSL

You are approximately 314 metres from the exchange (straight line distance).

is that fine for 24mbit ? would i get full speed even at 16mbit ?

i wondered why wanadoo started advertising around here a few months ago, its because their LLU equipment is in the exchange

how many LLU's can you fit in an exchange as ours is fairly small

[James Henry]

Chances are Kronas you're good for 20Mbit+.

Don't need that much space for LLU operations and a lot of space was reclaimed replacing old analogue gear with newer and much smaller digital switching gear.

[kronas]

just hope the telephone line is good then

question for you:

is it possibe to have two internet connections in windows xp pro, my motherboard has two ethernet ports, so i can run them independently for downloading etc ? any programs i need etc ?