Modem = Bin?

[James Henry]

Originally Posted by Paul

NTL would see the same MAC on 2 modems and know someone was up to something. No doubt both modems would then lose service.

Like they do now because of course there's absolutely no theft of service on the ntl network.

[roseandjim]

Just a quick question here -- if someone was paying for ntl's service but had an old modem and couldn't get their full paid for speed why not buy a 250 from ebay and flash the mac address? Thereby avoiding ntl's £50 charge.
No theft - No fraud - where's the problem?

[James Henry]

Originally Posted by roseandjim

Just a quick question here -- if someone was paying for ntl's service but had an old modem and couldn't get their full paid for speed why not buy a 250 from ebay and flash the mac address? Thereby avoiding ntl's £50 charge.
No theft - No fraud - where's the problem?

It would offend some dogooders on here. Apart from that, nope I don't see a problem with that at all apart from the fact that, obviously, your service couldn't be guaranteed as you're impersonating a lower model of modem so firmware upgrades would fail.

Originally Posted by roseandjim

Just a quick question here -- if someone was paying for ntl's service but had an old modem and couldn't get their full paid for speed why not buy a 250 from ebay and flash the mac address? Thereby avoiding ntl's £50 charge.
No theft - No fraud - where's the problem?

Because at this time 250 modems will only work for a subbed customer. The normal methods to change the mac address does not work on these modems. Therefor they are at this time nothing more than a blue doorstop to those that have not paid for one from NTL.

Originally Posted by James Henry

It would offend some dogooders on here.

No one pm me asking how i know. I will not give out details on how to steal cable and therefor will be classed as one of those dogooders now there is a interesting perspective. unlimited as a dogooder

[James Henry]

Originally Posted by unlimited

Because at this time 250 modems will only work for a subbed customer. The normal methods to change the mac address does not work on these modems. Therefor they are at this time nothing more than a blue doorstop to those that have not paid for one from NTL.


No one pm me asking how i know. I will not give out details on how to steal cable and therefor will be classed as one of those dogooders now there is a interesting perspective. unlimited as a dogooder

Gah I only put in the bit about how service couldn't be guaranteed, I didn't want to be more specific

You a dogooder, nah you aren't jumping up and down screaming about this. Fundamentally if it were to work I wouldn't see a problem with it so long as the person in question were paying for the relevant subscription, would you?

Originally Posted by James Henry

Gah I only put in the bit about how service couldn't be guaranteed, I didn't want to be more specific

You a dogooder, nah you aren't jumping up and down screaming about this. Fundamentally if it were to work I wouldn't see a problem with it so long as the person in question were paying for the relevant subscription, would you?

Not if it was to replace a legitimate paid for modem and the customer is paying for there service. Where i draw the line is theft of service, Then they should be boiled in oil for a week and then made to watch England 's last 2 games for a day .

[roseandjim]

It would be a hell of a lot more honest than someone deliberately breaking a modem to get a new one as I have read on here. Pity about the config thing though, I thought about that myself after I had posted.