*ALL* ntl 10Mb Discussion (Part 3)

[Hans Gruber]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Looking at the filesizes I would guess they using xvid codec.

I downloaded one of the free shorts, it's using WMV with DRM. Quality seemed OK. Would be nice if you could watch them on some thing other than a PC though.

[Okonski]

Originally Posted by chrisjj

God help you. The NTL:250 has been such crap here that I'm about to get it swapped for my old 3COM CMX. I'll have "2Mb working" over "10Mb bust" any day.

I still have my CMX, if someone can confirm it wouldn;t be any worse than my existing 250, (which rarely gives me anything above 537 kb/s). OK, they may say 'up to 10Mb', but I'm only willing to PAY them UP TO £34.99 IF I get improved bandwidth and not otherwise....

[Chrysalis]

wmv is dissapointing but I guess xvid isnt favourable in the pay for market because its popular for pirated formats yes is far superior. Also I am not sure if drm works in xvid.

I praise aol for not going the torrent route tho providing the files by proper means from a fast server. I think any paid for content shouldnt rely on p2p protocols.

[Phil136]

Hi,

I am on 2mb NTL at the moment, I was wondering if they were still upgrading 2MB people as I havent hear anything from them??

Thanks

[familymahone]

Originally Posted by Phil136

Hi,

I am on 2mb NTL at the moment, I was wondering if they were still upgrading 2MB people as I havent hear anything from them??

Thanks

I doubt they have finished the 3mb people yet. It could be the summer before we see any upgrade from 2mb.

[Phil136]

Thanks for the info

[bilal]

are u sure 2mb to 10mb is going to happen. It seems unlikely to me as there hasnt been any news recently about it going to happen.

[Hans Gruber]

I wouldn't be suprised if they had a 10mbit option with a lower cap level, maybe 30-40gb a month and run it alongside the unlimited 2mbit.

[etccarmageddon]

yes I'm sure. it'll be 10meg with a smaller 'allowance'.

[Chrysalis]

no chance until current allowance will be enforced else they would be nothing stopping people pay 17.99 and use a 100 gig on 10 meg. Also bear in mind their is saturation problems on ntl's network at the moment and you still ask for them to sell more bandwidth on top of currently oversold bandwidth, if ntl were to rollout 10 meg tommorow to the other 2 tiers how do you think the network would cope? bear in mind most of their customer base are on the lower tiers so its a much bigger rollout.

[etccarmageddon]

that's why it's not happened yet!

[etccarmageddon]

well they'd better pull their fingers out at NTL and get moving on shifting the 2mb users to 10mb asap as otherwise NTL are going to look pants compared to ADSL (in headline speed terms):-

www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/22/plusnet_isp/

and yes I know a lot of ADSL lines cant do 8mb but in marketing terms it will be beating NTL in a month or 2!

[Derek]

Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

and yes I know a lot of ADSL lines cant do 8mb but in marketing terms it will be beating NTL in a month or 2!

I wouldn't agree. All that Ntl need to say is they can offer speeds up to 2MB faster than the maximum ADSL can provide (and a lot more than the average ADSL) speeds.

For headline grabbing a 2 digit number is better than 1 every time.

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by etccarmageddon

well they'd better pull their fingers out at NTL and get moving on shifting the 2mb users to 10mb asap as otherwise NTL are going to look pants compared to ADSL (in headline speed terms):-

www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/22/plusnet_isp/

and yes I know a lot of ADSL lines cant do 8mb but in marketing terms it will be beating NTL in a month or 2!

Umm ntl offer 10mbit how do they look pants?

I wouldnt count plusnet as a credible comparison, I may have my issues with ntl but take a read at adslguide and you will see plusnet have become a mockery. They making the profits by forcing all sorts of shaping that puts anything other then http down to 512kbit and 256kbit speeds, so essentially their 8meg service is a 8meg browsing service and a 512kbit ftp/nntp service and 256kbit p2p service. Oh and they have no 8meg service they were marketing it for a good few months before people realised noone actually had it and they were all on 2meg so paying almost £40 for a heavily shaped 2meg connection. The grass isnt always greener on the other side.

If ntl were to rollout 10meg to the middle tier it would be dumb considering their is no bandwidth for it ubr's are creeking and peering is bursting at the brim they need to sort these problems out before they starting giving out more bandwidth.

[etccarmageddon]

pants because you can only get it for £35 a month. these ADSL suppliers will be offering it for a lot less. plusnet - £21.99 a month.