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BlueYonder Capping
View Poll Results: Should Blueyonder Be Limited / Policed?
No it should stay 100% unlimited. 39 53.42%
Stay unlimited but with enforcement on those extracting the urine. 20 27.40%
'Soft caps' a la ntl's previous caps on their services. 9 12.33%
Yeah baby caps that are solid, break them and some kind of sanction / extra cost applied. 5 6.85%
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Old 11-02-2006, 14:52   #31
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Re: BlueYonder Capping
I think the difference here is telewest appear to be allowing this to be admitted to in public.

NTL are not the white knight and my ubr has been oversubscribed for months on end as well, along with my proxies been overloaded.

Doesnt make the situation any better tho considering they admit to have no cash to resolve the issue
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Old 11-02-2006, 18:10   #32
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Why would they?

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What the ****s a terrabyte?
Current isp pricing schemes are unsustainable they are there to draw in customers away from other providers and get there business.
As for downloads killing the ability to browse, dont push d/l so hard. We have 2mbit adsl in this house shared between 4 people we have a traffic shaping routing and everything gets its fair share of the b/w.

A terrabyte (TB) is 1000 Gigabytes, which is 1000Megabytes ...
If a 10mbit connection was working at 80% efficency constantly (1meg/s download) it would take a million seconds to download a TB. Which is 277.777 hours or roughly speaking 11 1/2 days.


If however you were on the university network and had a device that was able to read/write the data fast enough it would take 1000 seconds (Uni backbone is 10Gbit/s)
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Old 11-02-2006, 18:38   #33
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I think the difference here is telewest appear to be allowing this to be admitted to in public.

NTL are not the white knight and my ubr has been oversubscribed for months on end as well, along with my proxies been overloaded.

Doesnt make the situation any better tho considering they admit to have no cash to resolve the issue
I wouldn't call customer service people saying this as 'appearing to allow this to be admitted to in public'.

If they were to make a statement confessing their sins then I'd agree. Their normal comms channels are conspicuous by their silence on this issue.

ntl have tacitly admitted to having network issues at least, even if it was somewhat reluctantly tacked on after blaming user equipment.

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Current isp pricing schemes are unsustainable they are there to draw in customers away from other providers and get there business.
As for downloads killing the ability to browse, dont push d/l so hard. We have 2mbit adsl in this house shared between 4 people we have a traffic shaping routing and everything gets its fair share of the b/w.

A terrabyte (TB) is 1000 Gigabytes, which is 1000Megabytes ...
If a 10mbit connection was working at 80% efficency constantly (1meg/s download) it would take a million seconds to download a TB. Which is 277.777 hours or roughly speaking 11 1/2 days.


If however you were on the university network and had a device that was able to read/write the data fast enough it would take 1000 seconds (Uni backbone is 10Gbit/s)
Soton get upgraded? Last JANET map I saw it was on a gig fed from the 10 gig ring at Reading?

EDIT: Looks as though it's now fed on a sub-ring through Cosham. Unless UKERNA have been eating more of my tax money than normal though should still be on either a gig or STM-16 tops.

If Soton gets 10Gbps I'll have to consider sulking
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Old 13-02-2006, 01:21   #34
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Get sulking! SuperJanet 5 is being rolled out, and with it brings ooodles of b/w. 100mbit lan connections can be saturated if enough fast mirrors are found. The uplink to LENSE (local bit of the janet) has been running at 2.5GBit for the past few years. I was meaning across the fastest bit of the backbone in my calculation! no one computer can go that fast. it takes thousands giving it some stick!
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how is janet funded government cash?
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how is janet funded government cash?
Of course.

http://www.ja.net/about/ukerna/ukerna.html

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Unless UKERNA have been eating more of my tax money than normal though should still be on either a gig or STM-16 tops.

If Soton gets 10Gbps I'll have to consider sulking
I'll refrain from sulking while Soton is still on STM-16 It's when the non-core sites get STM-64 that I'll be scared, SJ 5 is the STM-256 40Gbit core.
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Got an e-mail this morning from Telewest informing me of maintainence works in my area for aroubd 20 hours - wonder is that'll make any difference?
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Why not use janet as a backbone for broadband as well then, it seems our .edu network has a bigger backbone then commercial broadband isps.
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Got an e-mail this morning from Telewest informing me of maintainence works in my area for aroubd 20 hours - wonder is that'll make any difference?
lol it means you won't be online for 20 hrs. At least you get a warning though, I never got one when they were doing maintenance.
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No wonder blueyonder have a problem when many of it's customers think bandwidth should be 100% unlimited no matter what. I always had a feeling that it's pledge to be the leechers best friend would end in tears.

I'm lucky that my blueyonder speeds are still quite good, but I'd happily accept a harsher fair usage policy or caps (especially if they allow a degree of flexibility and take into account off-peak usage), to ensure a decent level of service.

Blueyonder should stop pandering to the small minority of cry baby customers who kick up a fuss when they're asked to stop abusing their connection. When UKOnline first introduce their 8Mb ADSL for £30/month and the blueyonder newsgroups were full of zealots arguing that the blueyonder's 4Mb £50/month service was better because it didn't have the 500GB/month cap.
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More to the point..

http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/...d.php?t=340643

Telewest appear to be writing to people with high upstream usage.

Better late than never.

The letter is only sent out to people who have a trojan or a lot of spyware. And the trojan and spyware is sending alot of info out
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The letter is only sent out to people who have a trojan or a lot of spyware. And the trojan and spyware is sending alot of info out
Quite a few people have said that they checked their machines and they were clean.

At very least it shows TW are taking an interest in upstream utilisation.
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