Check This Out - ntl 100Mbps

[Hom3r]

I think this is coming down the copper phone line ADSL2+

[Chrysalis]

adsl2+ cant do 100meg.

If it isnt docsis3 the only way that seems feasible is fibre.

[icanadvise]

for pitys sake try to keep up people its been on their website at least 3 months http://www.business.ntl.com/ethernet/metro.php

Because our Metro Ethernet service runs exclusively on our own privately owned fibre network - ntl becomes fully accountable for the security of your traffic and the reliability of your connections. We can and do provide levels of service that few can match.

What's more, our Metro Ethernet service also offers considerably higher bandwidth than many alternative Wide Area Network solutions, at a highly competitive and affordable price. Regardless of the size of your business, we have a Metro Ethernet package to suit your needs, with options ranging from 10Mbps to 100Mbps and even 1,000Mbps.

no secret no one has to kill anyone

[Stuart]

Erm, because NTL businees uses a method to deliver 100 Meg + broadband, it does not follow it would be feasible (or even practical) for NTL home to offer it. Remember, businesses can (and do) pay £1,000 + a month for connections. I cannot imagine the average home consumer wanting to pay even £100.

[Rob2005]

Clearly no one followed that link to the ntl business site... That service is for connecting two diffrent sites within a business together on the same network. It does not include internet access...but the companies' own network traffic.

If mid/large companies want net access this is what they would go for:

http://www.business.ntl.com/internet...cess/index.php

[icanadvise]

Originally Posted by Stuart C

Erm, because NTL businees uses a method to deliver 100 Meg + broadband, it does not follow it would be feasible (or even practical) for NTL home to offer it. Remember, businesses can (and do) pay £1,000 + a month for connections. I cannot imagine the average home consumer wanting to pay even £100.

precisely Stu !! as you say its a 'businees' service with high-class video-conferencing not yer 'average home consumer' service

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by icanadvise

precisely Stu !! as you say its a 'businees' service with high-class video-conferencing not yer 'average home consumer' service

Yeah, but the original article in post 1 seems to be suggesting they are trialing a 100 Meg home service. They have been able to offer fast links to businesses for years. *If* they are trialling a 100 Meg home service, then they would have to bring prices down to the point where using the same hardware they use for business may not be feasible.

[Chrysalis]

Well if its fibre how much would have to be laid to fund a ntl home service? If they do this would we see ntl relaying cables in analogue tv areas to support digital tv?

I am very suspect about this, ntl appear to be repeating history by rolling out new technologies without ensuring their existing footprint has a universal service, I wonder if we will have some areas with 100mbit internet no speed fluctuations, digital tv + vod. Other areas same price with 10meg lines that cant hit 1meg and no digital tv. I would like to see ntl sort that out first.

[squirrel1970]

I wouldn't mind 100megs... the only thing is.. our poor delapidated modem (which needs a good kicking) can't see past 2.6megs....

but a hearty golfclap about the 'p*ss up' and 'brewery'

[Ignition]

Originally Posted by icanadvise

for pitys sake try to keep up people its been on their website at least 3 months http://www.business.ntl.com/ethernet/metro.php



no secret no one has to kill anyone

Miles off that's been available for ages, point to point connections. back at you. For pity's sake RTFM.

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Well if its fibre how much would have to be laid to fund a ntl home service? If they do this would we see ntl relaying cables in analogue tv areas to support digital tv?

I am very suspect about this, ntl appear to be repeating history by rolling out new technologies without ensuring their existing footprint has a universal service, I wonder if we will have some areas with 100mbit internet no speed fluctuations, digital tv + vod. Other areas same price with 10meg lines that cant hit 1meg and no digital tv. I would like to see ntl sort that out first.

It's not fibre and chill out, it's a trial.

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Originally Posted by david.ewles

I think this is coming down the copper phone line ADSL2+

ADSL2+ according to the national frequency plan can't go above 24Mbps downstream 1.3Mbps upstream.

[jtwn]

VDSL.

[Ignition]

Originally Posted by jtwn

VDSL.

*Family Fortunes sound*

Unlikely to be VDSL(2).

[icanadvise]

Originally Posted by Ignition

Tis not DOCSIS 3.

plenty to choose from then you missed out the 'quite' b4 DOCSIS ? http://www.arrisi.com/press/pressdetail.asp?id=268
http://broadband.motorola.com/ips/pd..._Bandwidth.pdf
http://www.cedmagazine.com/article/C...dustryid=43679
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/netsol/ns..._category.html

[Ignition]

Originally Posted by icanadvise

plenty to choose from then you missed out the 'quite' b4 DOCSIS ? http://www.arrisi.com/press/pressdetail.asp?id=268
http://broadband.motorola.com/ips/pd..._Bandwidth.pdf
http://www.cedmagazine.com/article/C...dustryid=43679
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/netsol/ns..._category.html

English please.

Anyway grats, a couple of links to DOCSIS 3 kit, a broken (at the moment) link to CED magazine, and a Cisco guide to backhauling existing cable networks with metro ethernet and using traffic aggregators, which will have about as much chance of accelerating people to 100Mbit on its' own as someone lighting their own flatulation will have of taking them to the moon.

I fail to see what this supports, you said it was the point to point metro ethernet product, now you're trying to say it's DOCSIS 3.

Being argumentative for the fun of it isn't big or clever dude. Though there's most of the potential options gone.

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Meh this is silly.

As I don't 'know' this for a fact and it wasn't discussed while I was there I guess no NDA applies as this is just what I think based on my knowledge of the systems.

http://www.naradnetworks.com/ For the win!

[DaggaDagga]

Thanks, Ignition.100Mb downstream, and 100Mb upstream. Looks promising.On a moaning note, why do people insist on using completely meaningless thread names, e.g. "Check This Out". Tells you nothing - wouldn't "100Mb broadband" be more interesting, and actually get read by people?