*All* ntl Cap Discussion (part 4) - Page 10

Chrysalis · 15-12-2005, 14:02

Cant argue with the point that ntl appears not to be outperforming telewest, telewest and ntl both have saturated ports at linx, but the difference is I sort of expect it from telewest since they are uncapped and I dont expect it from ntl. I have heard of no saturated ports for any of the adsl isp's.

Skippie · 15-12-2005, 16:03

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Originally Posted by Ignition

Just to point out I said about those *forced* to downgrade due to caning it.

Those *upgraded* to the 512k from 300k will have no problems upgrading, only those forcibly moved to 512k will have any problems.

Ignition, can I just ask if you are guessing that the downgraded users won't be able to upgrade to this new unlimited service, or do you have some sort of inside knowledge?

Richy99 · 15-12-2005, 16:16

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Cant argue with the point that ntl appears not to be outperforming telewest, telewest and ntl both have saturated ports at linx, but the difference is I sort of expect it from telewest since they are uncapped and I dont expect it from ntl. I have heard of no saturated ports for any of the adsl isp's.

probably not enough users on the high speed adsl services for it to get saturated

capped or uncapped is not relevant as number of users is what causes it not whether they are capped, there is no difference to 100 capped 10meg users accessing the same point as 1000 1meg users it still has the same amount of traffic

theNomad · 15-12-2005, 21:47

woaahhh only been away a week and its total chaos here among the allways entertaining cap thread,everyones running round without a clue whats going on or whats going to happen

!!! am I capped now arnt I capped !!!
!!! ntl are going to be doing this or theyre doing that !!!

the BIG QUESTION is when does the paying public get to know how they stand.Are all 1mb and 2mb going to be unlimited or not (personally I wouldnt need or expect 10mb unlimited,I dont think many people would need that)

ntl dont even seem to know whats going on,youve got so many people not touched with any overuse policy then another set of users dropped to 512k and Everyones paying different prices for different packages none of us have a clue what we are on and if and how much we are capped.

The people on the phone lines dont have a clue what to tell you if youve issues regarding what package you have or should have.

I was 512k for about 5 weeks - phoned up and said I repeatedly over used my connection but was told I would be charged less at £17.99 than the £24.99 I had been paying.Now I'm back upto 1mb and don't have a clue what I'll be charged for December ?

I was more than happy to take my punishment and use the 512k unlimited package till the footie season ended.

have ntl realized what they'll be losing monthly by putting people on lower cost packages and double backed the whole idea on caps ?

have the jolly public caught onto the fact that even being unlimited 512k is better than capped at 30gb-75gb per month and take up of the higher speeds not doing so well ?

**Paul** · 15-12-2005, 22:41

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Originally Posted by Skippie

Ignition, can I just ask if you are guessing that the downgraded users won't be able to upgrade to this new unlimited service, or do you have some sort of inside knowledge?

It has already been previously stated that users forcefully downgraded due to abuse of the caps will not be allowed to move service.

rogerdraig · 15-12-2005, 23:17

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Originally Posted by Paul M

It has already been previously stated that users forcefully downgraded due to abuse of the caps will not be allowed to move service.

and lol

ntl stating something seems to have little to do with what they eventualy do

LenMackin · 16-12-2005, 01:16

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Why leave the connection running whilst you are at work? Can't you download enough overnight on a 2 Mb service?

10 Mb unlimited is not an option. The country would not sign up in droves as these forums would be full of posts saying they are supposed to be on a 10 Mb service but get sub 1 Mb performance. There is a small minority of customers who want to download 100's of Gb per month who will spoil the internet experience of the masses who are quite content with capped 10 Mb or slower uncapped speeds.

Well under normal circumstances I turn my machine off when not using it. What I am saying is that if it means going down to a lesser speed I'll leave it on until i have downloaded whatever it is i want. I don't need to sit here watchig the download indicator.

My other point is that the more people signing up for a services must produce revenue that can be ploughed back into infrastructure to cover bandwidth.

paul11974 · 16-12-2005, 01:37

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Originally Posted by LenMackin

Well under normal circumstances I turn my machine off when not using it. What I am saying is that if it means going down to a lesser speed I'll leave it on until i have downloaded whatever it is i want. I don't need to sit here watchig the download indicator.

My other point is that the more people signing up for a services must produce revenue that can be ploughed back into infrastructure to cover bandwidth.

how much stuff is there that you want to download then ?

Skippie · 16-12-2005, 04:03

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Originally Posted by Paul M

It has already been previously stated that users forcefully downgraded due to abuse of the caps will not be allowed to move service.

How come theNomad was allowed to move from 512 to 1 Meg?

DaBuzz · 16-12-2005, 06:59

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Originally Posted by Skippie

How come theNomad was allowed to move from 512 to 1 Meg?

A friend of mine got a letter and was forced to 512. After arguing with the retentions department and threatening to disconnect (he pays like ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£150 a month on his bill), he was put back on the 10mbit service.

nemesis01 · 16-12-2005, 08:20

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Originally Posted by DaBuzz

A friend of mine got a letter and was forced to 512. After arguing with the retentions department and threatening to disconnect (he pays like £150 a month on his bill), he was put back on the 10mbit service.

Strange really, on 10MB you can download 75GB, on 512K you can download over 120GB a month for half the price, who's the mugs then....

LenMackin · 16-12-2005, 08:39

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Originally Posted by paul11974

how much stuff is there that you want to download then ?

Family of 4, listen to internet radio, download softwre, music, video and other stuff, online gaming websites getting more bandwidth intensive. Watch HDTV trailors etc etc.... You will be amazed and it will only get worse as more content is pumped down the line at us. In 3 years 75 gig a week will be normal.

Mal · 16-12-2005, 08:50

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Originally Posted by nemesis01

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Originally Posted by DaBuzz

A friend of mine got a letter and was forced to 512. After arguing with the retentions department and threatening to disconnect (he pays like ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£150 a month on his bill), he was put back on the 10mbit service.

Strange really, on 10MB you can download 75GB, on 512K you can download over 120GB a month for half the price, who's the mugs then....

That only works if they care about the cap

**Paul** · 16-12-2005, 09:35

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Originally Posted by rogermevans

ntl stating something seems to have little to do with what they eventualy do

True, but that is their policy. Whether they stick to it is another matter entirely.

**Maggy** · 16-12-2005, 10:30

I'm actually very pleased with the service I've got BB wise..Never had any major problems and the connection has been terrific most of the time.The only real complaint is the email issues but that's another thread/forum entirely.

When they do this I will actually be VERY GRATEFUL to be getting a better service than the one I started with which was 128k.Here I will be on 1MB unlimited for the same price as I was on 128k.