*All* ntl Cap Discussion (part 4)

If you look at our Nov 8th news item you will see this in the last bit.

Cable Forum also believe that ntl have plans to offer a number of lower speed ‘uncapped’ services. They have already indicated that heavy users will be moved to a 512Kbps uncapped service at £17.99, we believe that further services for £24.99 and £37.99 will also be offered, the most likely speeds being 1Mbps and 2Mbps. We will of course keep you informed as more information becomes available.

This seems to confirm that the 1 meg is becoming uncapped, and the 2 meg as well. Don't expect the 10 meg to be uncapped.

[Hans Gruber]

Sounds a bit funny, they can't have unlimited downloads on all tarifs aswell as upgrading them all to 10mbit. Hopefully they'll go down the Telewest route and have various uncapped tarifs at different speeds.

:edit: http://www.alchemyworx.com/ntl/broad...c05/index2.htm <-- that appears to be the email for 2mbit users, also says unlimited downloads. Also if you replace the number at the end upto 4 it seems to cover all tarifs. This is from "4" which I guess is the 512k service?

Unlimited downloads
From January, our 1Mb and 2Mb ntl Broadband services will have unlimited downloads, so you can surf the internet for as long as you like.
Click here to upgrade now.

[Chrysalis]

What will be interesting is if some poor soul pays for unlimited 2meg at 37.99 and his neighbour leeches 600gig on 10mbit and gets no contact from ntl. My meaning is if ntl are going to start all these tiers they need to get their finger out and apply the metering properly so people get their fair share and provide the means to watch your usage.

[grubbymitts]

change of policy maybe? Everyone assumes, as we've all been told, that NTL will up everyone to 10mb speeds - but maybe they won't. Maybe it is cheaper and more cost effective (due to such problems as 100/120 modems not liking the new speed and replacement costs) to keep everyone on the same tarrifs they were on before, but give people unlimited downloads (I bet they bite your ass with usage policy after a while) and let the customer upgrade when they want to.

Personally, I want 2mb unlimited. Downloading is fine at that speed and so is surfing (when the damn proxy plays right!)

[RoNa7dO]

oh den i have to downgrade nxt year cant stay with 10MB capped coz i alrleady did 65GB in 6 days lol

[grubbymitts]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

What will be interesting is if some poor soul pays for unlimited 2meg at 37.99 and his neighbour leeches 600gig on 10mbit and gets no contact from ntl. My meaning is if ntl are going to start all these tiers they need to get their finger out and apply the metering properly so people get their fair share and provide the means to watch your usage.

true, but http://www.alchemyworx.com/ntl/broad...c05/index2.htm does say no extra cost, so they shouldn't raise the price to £37.99. Besides, that price is far too much when you look at other companies offering similar packages.

[Griffin]

Originally Posted by grubbymitts

true, but http://www.alchemyworx.com/ntl/broad...c05/index2.htm does say no extra cost, so they shouldn't raise the price to £37.99. Besides, that price is far too much when you look at other companies offering similar packages.

I agree 2mb unlimited is available below £24.99 on adsl, even considering the cost of getting phone lines installed becomes worth while when the savings are taken into account. Then you have ukonline expanding offering up to 24mb for only £29.99 & they have a sensible cap (500gb). NTL really need to be realistic with prices & caps

Originally Posted by Griffin

I agree 2mb unlimited is available below £24.99 on adsl, even considering the cost of getting phone lines installed becomes worth while when the savings are taken into account. Then you have ukonline expanding offering up to 24mb for only £29.99 & they have a sensible cap (500gb). NTL really need to be realistic with prices & caps

So let me just get this stright.

NTL might be offering 1 and 2 meg at the same price "if i read it correcly" as they do now but for unlimited.

And still there are complaints and crys of "it's not good enough".

Originally Posted by Bill C

So let me just get this stright.

NTL might be offering 1 and 2 meg at the same price "if i read it correcly" as they do now but for unlimited.

And still there are complaints and crys of "it's not good enough".

You almost sound surprised

Originally Posted by JohnHorb

You almost sound surprised

Well i am just waiting for the Anti Cap brigade to turn up and ask why we are not giving it away free .

But to be truthfull i was considering changing my supplier to a unlimited one. This has just stopped me.

Well done NTL if it's true.

[LenMackin]

Well whatever way this arguement goes it still amounts to the same thing, NTL are trying to control the way we use the services. Someone commented on my earlier post that i will probably do about 60 gigs this month, YES I KNOW that, it's Christmas and there's a lot of parties and stuff happening so i am not online as often. I still contend that 2.5gigs a day is utter crap. It's so sad... permanent conection but now download limits, so really what's the point? Sorry NTL, you need to get your system sorted to support usage or else cut the speeds so that we do what WE want.

[dilli-theclaw]

Originally Posted by Bill C

Well i am just waiting for the Anti Cap brigade to turn up and ask why we are not giving it away free .

But to be truthfull i was considering changing my supplier to a unlimited one. This has just stopped me.

Well done NTL if it's true.

Um - Why the hell should I pay for it - it should be free

p.s. I expect free blank dvd's and all manner of stuff from ntl

Originally Posted by Bill C

But to be truthfull i was considering changing my supplier to a unlimited one. This has just stopped me.

Well done NTL if it's true.

Only on 1 and 2 MB though - not 10MB

[Ignition]

Originally Posted by LenMackin

Well whatever way this arguement goes it still amounts to the same thing, NTL are trying to control the way we use the services. Someone commented on my earlier post that i will probably do about 60 gigs this month, YES I KNOW that, it's Christmas and there's a lot of parties and stuff happening so i am not online as often. I still contend that 2.5gigs a day is utter crap. It's so sad... permanent conection but now download limits, so really what's the point? Sorry NTL, you need to get your system sorted to support usage or else cut the speeds so that we do what WE want.

Unfortunately you pay them to use their network under their conditions. If you don't agree with them you're not obligated to pay them.

I pay road tax, etc, still doesn't mean I can do 150mph down the motorway.

Sadly like everything else that we rent yes, rent you don't actually buy anything, there are conditions attached to the manner in which you use the product.

If you wish you could buy the entire internet, that way you could certainly use it any way you see fit. Until you own the entire network end to end though you have to obey the rules set by ntl, who in turn obey the rules set by their providers, who in turn... etc.

Originally Posted by JohnHorb

Only on 1 and 2 MB though - not 10MB

I have said this before "It will be a cold day in hell when 10 meg goes unlimited"