*ALL* ntl 10Mb Discussion (Part 3)

Originally Posted by spotler

Dodger444, thanks for that.

I'll try that and see what happens.

Your welcome, just be polite and calm... it will get you further.

[gripper103]

I just did that robi walker test with netmeter runningand got 662.3 KBs as max ,is that good?

[Mauldor]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Most of these speedtest sites like paul's last a few seconds, if they try the linux iso I dont know how many would abort or download the whole file, but to be honest that should be irrelevant ntl have set a cap level of 75gig, they should design the network to be able to handle everyone using up to 75gig.

In the real world, you would have thought NTL before they introduced 10mbit either for testing (the fabled TRAIL) or real - would have made sure there was enough bandwidth to handle XX users on 10mbit and below. No-one has answered my questions which I asked AGES ago:

How many users are connected to each UBR?
How Much bandwidth per UBR is allocated per D/L and U/L

If these figures comes forth - then we could see if the network can indeed cope but maybe they are hidden away for a reason? All I know is that Before the 10mbit every hit the shores, 2mbit was pretty consistant but as soon as the 10mbit came into force - the speeds have shot down (I have a mate few doors down still on 2mbit) and also they have gone to crap for me (10mbit). If you try the same stuff @11pm onwards - the speeds are fine - could not get any closer to 10mbit if you tried. This tells me the network cannot with-stand 10mbit - simple as that !!

In fact Ill tell you what Ill do for a week or so, Ill DO a speed test from the Irish Site, ADSL Guide and from here and produce a chart showing the speeds come flying down during the day and shooting back up at night

[gripper103]

Good idea Mauldor,thats what needs doing some sort of comparison,I tend to get mixed up with all thr bps,kBs,KBs,Iknow ones,bits,ones bytes but I just get confused,different sites use different measurements...ahhhhh

How many users are connected to each UBR?
How Much bandwidth per UBR is allocated per D/L and U/L

The answer to the first question is 30:1 ratio. where as bt have a 50:1 ratio... as for the second question I have no idea

EDIT: I must admit, thats what it used to be a year or so ago... whether that's changed now (and it sure feels like it!) I dont know??

[Mauldor]

Originally Posted by Dodger444

The answer to the first question is 30:1 ratio. where as bt have a 50:1 ratio... as for the second question I have no idea

I was looking more for lets say 200 Users max per Card - I think this is what was aimed at ages ago - not sure if this has risen to 250 now though??

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Originally Posted by gripper103

Good idea Mauldor,thats what needs doing some sort of comparison,I tend to get mixed up with all thr bps,kBs,KBs,Iknow ones,bits,ones bytes but I just get confused,different sites use different measurements...ahhhhh

I have already sort of done this in my head, with my general downloading as I require files (they are not that big as it goes) and seen the pattern emerge since 10mbit has started - But I will chart for a while and we shall see !!

[foxprorawks]

OK, I've just been on the phone to Broadband technical support to complain that although my modem configuration says I have a 10Mb connection, dowloading and running speed tests etc. shows that I have somewhere between a 3Mb and 4Mb connection.

The nice Indian lady on the other end of the phone advised me that the 10Mb speed is still in a "trial phase" and will be until the end of the year.

I tried to argue the case that there was a launch of the 10Mb product on Monday, but she stuck to her guns. Her manager, Raj, confirmed that we are still in a trial phase and that if the NTL web site says otherwise then the web site is wrong.

So what is the situation?

When I told him that my modem sometimes reboots, he offered to downgrade me back to 3Mb until the trial finishes

No complaints about Raj or his colleague - they were very courteous - but I'm now very confused.

[Hartleys]

Join the club i think everyone has been there at one stage of the upgrade

[Mick Fisher]

Originally Posted by foxprorawks

OK, I've just been on the phone to Broadband technical support to complain that although my modem configuration says I have a 10Mb connection, dowloading and running speed tests etc. shows that I have somewhere between a 3Mb and 4Mb connection.

The nice Indian lady on the other end of the phone advised me that the 10Mb speed is still in a "trial phase" and will be until the end of the year.

I tried to argue the case that there was a launch of the 10Mb product on Monday, but she stuck to her guns. Her manager, Raj, confirmed that we are still in a trial phase and that if the NTL web site says otherwise then the web site is wrong.

So what is the situation?

When I told him that my modem sometimes reboots, he offered to downgrade me back to 3Mb until the trial finishes

No complaints about Raj or his colleague - they were very courteous - but I'm now very confused.

You have been treated abominally.

Let me put an end to your confusion.

YOU HAVE BEEN FOBBED OFF!!

And as to the situation?

As Ntl seem to keep their staff just as well informed as their customers, no one can really say anything with any certainty. As per usual.

This 10meg upgrade was, just the usual fiasco that seemingly occurs when ever Ntl does anything.

But with the introduction of a £50.00 per customer whip round, seemingly to help them upgrade their old obsolete and worn out equipment, it is now reaching the heights of lunacy only being currently rivalled by Sony and their on going Root-Kit disaster.

The outsourcing of TS and the £50.00 whip round are yet two more ways the Ntl Corporate "PR" machine have found to further alienate their already thoroughly alienated customer base.

I expect the Clowns who thought this up have had a good laugh about it, at our expense of course.

I fully expect to receive the usual "If you don't like it then **** off!" comments, but I really don't give a ****.

Why should I?

Ntl certainly doesn't.

[AndrewJ]

Hello and well good morning everyone, I am after that site where the password is Root etc could someone link me I would use search but with my net lagging as it is I just want some help.

Thankyou.

Originally Posted by Saxo

Hello and well good morning everyone, I am after that site where the password is Root etc could someone link me I would use search but with my net lagging as it is I just want some help.

Thankyou.

you mean 192.168.100.1

[kronas]

Originally Posted by Saxo

Hello and well good morning everyone, I am after that site where the password is Root etc could someone link me I would use search but with my net lagging as it is I just want some help.

Thankyou.

http://192.168.100.1/

username/password = root

[zitianaki]

Originally Posted by gripper103

I just did that robi walker test with netmeter runningand got 662.3 KBs as max ,is that good?

yes thats good 6Mbits roughly or 5.5 ..10Mbit maxed is over 1Mbyte/sec

i get 1Mbyte from microsoft web site and 960ish from other places im ukonline 8 meg 2.2km from exchange.

Downstream8691 Kbps (1,086.4 KB/sec)9386 Kbps (inc. overheads)
Upstream657 Kbps (82.1 KB/sec)709 Kbps (inc. overheads)

you should try http://www.adslguide.org.uk/tools/speedtest.asp
or this other speed test is ok to http://www.irishisptest.com/myspeed/ more accurate then the nemeter thing i think

[Barewolf]

Well i got a letter today for upgrading, it says my set top box will handle the 5mb and it will cost me £50 to get the 10mb service.

What a rip off

[etccarmageddon]

I wouldnt say it's a rip off cos that £50 is probably at 'cost' for the work involved. but as a valued customer you should get it for free if you're paying £38 a month in my opinion.