[Merged] PVR for NTL

[garyparson]

Of course NTL want to roll (although roll suggests some kind of movement) out the VOD before a PVR. How much does a PVR make every time you record something? Zip. VOD is just another way to fill their pockets. NTL/C&W/Nynex have had plenty of money off me, it's about time they started giving me a service that they promised from the start. Something better than Sky.

Coming soon is just not good enough any more. I know that Sky are going to try and release HDTV in January next year, why, cos they tell everyone. Bit of comunication, nothing wrong with that. It's nice to know when things are going to happen, weather they do or not. At least it gives you a clue. Better than being kept in the dark and contantly being told 'coming soon'. Get a grip NTL. Must do better.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by garyparson

I know that Sky are going to try and release HDTV in January next year, why, cos they tell everyone.

The last Sky HD E-Mail I got (yesterday) had nothing on it about a launch date. Same with their HD Website.

All it mentions is 2006 for a target. And the latest rumours I've been hearing takes it till about March or April time for it.

So really setting out a firm date there aren't they?

[garyparson]

Originally Posted by dezzo

All it mentions is 2006 for a target.

Have we had a 'target' for PVR.... No

Originally Posted by Gary parson

Coming soon is just not good enough any more. I know that Sky are going to try and release HDTV in January next year,

Care to prove that.

With your record on Silly and incorrect statements you will understand if i take anything you say with a very very big pinch of salt.

But of course you will just come out with

a. A stupid statement that slags off ntl again.
b. Ignore anyone that replies to you and come out with a stupid statement again shortly.


Coming soon another stupid statement by you know who and its not NTL this time.

what i cannot fathom here is .

If you hate NTL that much why do you still use them ?

[Bob]

I believe NTL have a target of 2006 as well - it was mentioned in one of their many conference calls

Originally Posted by garyparson

Have we had a 'target' for PVR.... No

Then what is this here

And this bit here

†œWe look forward to offering cable customers the combination of MPEG-4 PVR and high quality Video on Demand services in 2006,ââ‚ƚ¬Ã‚ÂÂÂ� said Shai Weiss, managing director of ntlââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s Consumer Products division. †œWe wanted to leverage both this new technology and Scientific-Atlantaââ‚à ‚¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s extensive PVR experience to enable us to deploy a first-of-its-kind MPEG-4 PVR platform for the UK cable customers.ââ ¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ÂÂ�





Or is it ok in your eyes for Sky to say 2006 for HD, But if NTL say it you ignore it anyway

[KenK]

Originally Posted by Bill C

Then what is this here

And this bit here

†œWe look forward to offering cable customers the combination of MPEG-4 PVR and high quality Video on Demand services in 2006,ââ‚ƚ¬Ã‚ÂÂÂ� said Shai Weiss, managing director of ntlââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s Consumer Products division. †œWe wanted to leverage both this new technology and Scientific-Atlantaââ‚à ‚¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s extensive PVR experience to enable us to deploy a first-of-its-kind MPEG-4 PVR platform for the UK cable customers.

Yeah, they worked hard to make sure that announcement appeared on the front page of every paper
Mr J Public doesn't read the TV trade press, listen to NTL conference calls or read this forum. He does see adverts for Sky+ at £49, and Argos selling Freeview PVRs for next to nothing. And from NTLs slick marketing machine? Guess what I'd be thinking of for Christmas.....

[garyparson]

Funny how all the pro NTL'ers are all on their payroll haha..
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Originally Posted by Bill C

If you hate NTL that much why do you still use them ?

Show me one time I have said 'i hate NTL'

Take your time. Scour everything i've ever said.
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Originally Posted by Bill C

With your record on Silly and incorrect statements

Sorry for having the right to complain against a far from perfect service that I pay top dollar for. Unlike those on the NTL payroll i don't get a free pair of rose tinted glasses.
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Originally Posted by Bill C

†œWe look forward to offering cable customers the combination of MPEG-4 PVR and high quality Video on Demand services in 2006

Wow a 365 day window! Any chance of them giving us a smaller window? Some kind of hope? I bet they lose loads of customers due to this kind of poor communication.
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Originally Posted by Bill C

Or is it ok in your eyes for Sky to say 2006 for HD, But if NTL say it you ignore it anyway

I said 'January' not once did i say 2006. I guess you 'chose to ignore what i wrote'.

Originally Posted by gary parson

Funny how all the pro Ntlers are all on their payroll haha..
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Show me one time I have said 'i hate NTL'

Take your time. Scour everything I've ever said.
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Sorry for having the right to complain against a far from perfect service that I pay top dollar for. Unlike those on the NTL payroll i don't get a free pair of rose tinted glasses.
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Wow a 365 day window! Any chance of them giving us a smaller window? Some kind of hope? I bet they lose loads of customers due to this kind of poor communication.
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I said 'January' not once did i say 2006

Originally Posted by gary parson

I said 'January' not once did i say 2006

No you said

Originally Posted by gary parson

I know that Sky are going to try and release HDTV in January next year,

If you are going to quote yourself at least get it right

Next year is 2006 i think


Anyway thanks for making me yet again

[Derek]

Originally Posted by garyparson

Funny how all the pro NTL'ers are all on their payroll haha..

Yep I love my Ntl paycheck everymonth. Funny how it hasn't appeared since they made me redundant.

Originally Posted by garyparson

I said 'January' not once did i say 2006. I guess you 'chose to ignore what i wrote'.

Initially they were trying for getting them into the shops for Christmas. Then early next year. Now it seems to have dropped back to April or March time.
So it's a case of 'coming soon' from Sky then. But thats OK because they are not Ntl.

I'm not a huge fan of Ntl but to be honest if you can provide me with one post you've made where you aren't complaining about the sound quality or something else I'd be very surprised.

Originally Posted by dezo

Yep I love my Ntl paycheck every month. Funny how it hasn't appeared since they made me redundant.



Initially they were trying for getting them into the shops for Christmas. Then early next year. Now it seems to have dropped back to April or March time.
So it's a case of 'coming soon' from Sky then. But that's OK because they are not Ntl.

I'm not a huge fan of Ntl but to be honest if you can provide me with one post you've made where you aren't complaining about the sound quality or something else I'd be very surprised.

Nice intelligent post . Unlike some of the rants we are getting about the PVR

[vileda]

Originally Posted by garyparson

I waited THREE YEARS for a software update for my screwed sound.

That was the reason I left NTL 15 months ago, pops and clicks all over the place.

I would go back to NTL (from Sky+) if this is now fixed along with the following;

• NTL go to a proper IR Signal for their remotes
• Red button doesn't cause box to crash
• at least 1 weeks EPG
• PVR that works
• Interactive TV as on Freeview/Sky (football 1st etc)
• Be no more expensive than Sky

Can someone PM me when this is all in place please

[Derek]

Originally Posted by vileda

[*]Red button doesn't cause box to crash

The last few times I've used the red button on Ntl boxes its been fine. Thats been since about June/July time.

Originally Posted by vileda

[*]PVR that works

And when Sky+ works its great. When it reboots, misses a program or 'forgets' a series link it isn't quite as useful.

Originally Posted by vileda

[*]Interactive TV as on Freeview/Sky (football 1st etc)

You get the same interactive coverage on the BBC channels as Sky now. Funnily enough the main differences are on the Sky owned channels

Originally Posted by vileda

[*]Be no more expensive than Sky

I'm paying more now for a Sky package than I was with Ntl. Mainly as they make you take Sports and/or Movies to use the Sky+ features.

[quadplay]

Originally Posted by vileda

NTL go to a proper IR Signal for their remotes

Done. The Langley Pace boxes and all Samsung boxes use RC5 instead of the TWTV protocol (a version of IrDA).

Red button doesn't cause box to crash

Mostly done. It's certainly a lot more reliable than before. However, red button applications can cause any STB to crash - cable, satellite or DTT: that's the nature of computers. We can never guarantee 100% reliability.

at least 1 weeks EPG

This is required for the coming PVR

PVR that works

See the rest of the thread!

Interactive TV as on Freeview/Sky (football 1st etc)

This mostly depends on Sky (with regards to Football First, certainly). They hold the rights, and so we must negotiate with them to obtain the right to distribute the programming via cable.

Be no more expensive than Sky

Done - and have been for some time. In fact, cable is often cheaper than Sky as the Sky price increase is usually absorbed by ntl for a period of months each year.

[invisibleboy]

Originally Posted by dezzo

You get the same interactive coverage on the BBC channels as Sky now. Funnily enough the main differences are on the Sky owned channels.

i have to take note with that as you dont get the news multi screen or in fact vertually anything else for examle you wont get the interative question time this evening you only ever get one off events and the football on a saturday