02-11-2005, 20:53
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Re: smoking and the pub
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Originally Posted by clarie
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Please don't - and that goes for the rest of you  
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02-11-2005, 21:02
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Re: smoking and the pub
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Originally Posted by Stuart C
My point was that it is possible to find non-smoking forms of entertainment (including pubs).
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I know. 
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I want to say that I am not some complete anti-smoking nazi. I have friends that still smoke, I don't look down on them and I miss smoking myself sometimes. I think the fact that non-smokers have been made out to be 'moaners' 'selfish' and 'ignorant' has got my back up however, and this is why my posts may have come across as harsh in the thread at times.
I think my main point though is and has always been that smoking kills and that the more we bemoan the nanny state and plead our right to free choice, the more the focus becomes dragged away from this very critical foundational point. 
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02-11-2005, 21:09
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Re: smoking and the pub
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What a fantastic web site! It was worth having this thread just for that link. 
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02-11-2005, 21:10
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Re: smoking and the pub
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Originally Posted by andyl
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The first man to wear a tophat was arrested for distubing the peace.
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02-11-2005, 22:20
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Re: smoking and the pub
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Originally Posted by andyl
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Have you ?
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02-11-2005, 22:26
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Re: smoking and the pub
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Originally Posted by Paul M
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Nope.
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02-11-2005, 22:26
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Re: smoking and the pub
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Originally Posted by Stuart C
Find a non-smoking pub? Most of the pubs round here have well ventilated and segragated smoking areas. What about non-smoking restaurants? Cinemas (all of which, round here, have banned smoking)? It's actually not that difficult.
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My challenge that Slackdad failed in also goes out to you: find a non-smoking pub in Swansea or Port Talbot please
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02-11-2005, 22:43
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Re: smoking and the pub
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Originally Posted by clarie
The types of music and the types of TV programmes you don't like aren't harmful to your health. All types of music and tastes of TV programmes are catered for. If you want to listen to a certain type of music I don't like, I will not be affected by it, and nor will my health.
It's not complicated you know.
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They most certainly do have a detrimental affect on my health, they increase my stress levels, which increases my blood pressure, which increases my chance of having a heart attack and dying.
"Aren't harmful to your health" bovine excriment!
Smokers and non-smokers are also catered for, but you don't seem to be able to see that.
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Apparently there is one in Swansea's Wind Street Russ, don't have the name of it though
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02-11-2005, 22:48
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Re: smoking and the pub
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They most certainly do have a detrimental affect on my health, they increase my stress levels, which increases my blood pressure, which increases my chance of having a heart attack and dying.
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Yeah and that's comparable to the dangers of smoke inhalation... 
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02-11-2005, 22:49
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Re: smoking and the pub
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Apparently there is one in Swansea's Wind Street Russ, don't have the name of it though
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The Lounge, and a few pages back I supplied the link which showed it closed earlier this year.
My challenge is still open to bidders from the "there are plenty of non-smoking establishments around" brigade.
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02-11-2005, 22:51
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Re: smoking and the pub
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Yeah and that's comparable to the dangers of smoke inhalation... |
Yes, in that I have a choice whether to expose myself to either.
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02-11-2005, 22:55
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Re: smoking and the pub
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Well, I saw this posted on another site and thought it was amusing.
Drinkers will be next. The damage to society caused by alcohol is great. The bar of the future: smoke free, alcohol free with a crÃÃâ€*’¨che, soft drinks and approved non-threatening music playing in the background.
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02-11-2005, 22:56
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Re: smoking and the pub
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Yes, in that I have a choice whether to expose myself to either.
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You know what I meant Xaccers the health risks are not comparable.
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02-11-2005, 22:59
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Re: smoking and the pub
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Originally Posted by clarie
You know what I meant Xaccers the health risks are not comparable.
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Really? They both can lead to increased blood pressure which is detrimental to one's health, or does that not count because one increases your chance of getting cancer?
So you think something that's detremental to my health that you aren't bothered by doesn't warrent a ban, but something which is detrimental to your health but other people aren't bothered by does warrent a ban?
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02-11-2005, 23:02
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Re: smoking and the pub
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Really? They both can lead to increased blood pressure which is detrimental to one's health, or does that not count because one increases your chance of getting cancer?
So you think something that's detremental to my health that you aren't bothered by doesn't warrent a ban, but something which is detrimental to your health but other people aren't bothered by does warrent a ban?
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Oh come off it Xaccers if you are being serious you are clutching at straws to say the least....As well you know smoking leads to a million and one problems besides increased blood pressure...
In fact I am not even going to go there, you know this is a ridiculous comparison to make.
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