[Merged] PVR for NTL - Page 8

testcard · 24-10-2005, 19:57

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Originally Posted by jimbo

By February 1st?

I sincerely doubt the details will have been announced publicly by then, but we shall see.

How long should we expect to wait?

pvr is growing and if Mr J Public is unaware it may come on ntl, they will go elsewhere.

Then, that customer is lost generally forever.

KenK · 24-10-2005, 21:38

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Originally Posted by jimbo

By February 1st?

I sincerely doubt the details will have been announced publicly by then, but we shall see.

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Originally Posted by testcard

How long should we expect to wait?

pvr is growing and if Mr J Public is unaware it may come on ntl, they will go elsewhere.

Then, that customer is lost generally forever.

As you put it so eloquently, testcard - tick, tock.

How many customers are ntl going to lose to Sky+ in Sky's Christmas push, simply because ntl haven't told those customers that a similar* function is "coming soon" on cable?

* leave aside whether it'll be better, worse or whatever; at the moment, that's irrelevant. To anyone who doesn't get investor briefings and doesn't read these forums, there's absolutely no suggestion of anything like Sky+ coming from ntl.

24-10-2005, 21:55

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Originally Posted by KenK

* leave aside whether it'll be better, worse or whatever; at the moment, that's irrelevant. To anyone who doesn't get investor briefings and doesn't read these forums, there's absolutely no suggestion of anything like Sky+ coming from ntl.

that is a good point.

You can, of course, get PVR solutions for NTL, now, using suitable hardware/software on a PC, but, again, not everyone is fully aware of that, or wants to rely on their PC for watching TV

garyparson · 27-10-2005, 18:32

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Originally Posted by dezzo

Yep like the VOD rollout (which is progressing nicely) oh and the 3MB cable upgrades (done) and the new software for the STB's (again being rolled out)

Yep Ntl haven't been able to do anything right for a long time

I waited THREE YEARS for a software update for my screwed sound.
Still haven't got VOD, so don't assume just cos you have it everyone does.

Yep, you're wrong.

27-10-2005, 18:48

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Originally Posted by garyparson

I waited THREE YEARS for a software update for my screwed sound.
Still haven't got VOD, so don't assume just cos you have it everyone does.

Yep, you're wrong.

And you NEVER are

Derek · 27-10-2005, 21:46

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Originally Posted by garyparson

I waited THREE YEARS for a software update for my screwed sound.

And gee, no-one heard about it every 5 minutes did they?

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Originally Posted by garyparson

Still haven't got VOD, so don't assume just cos you have it everyone does.

Well I've got Sky+ so I don't have it anyway. But a big chunk of the Network does.

browneggsandham · 27-10-2005, 22:01

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Originally Posted by garyparson

I waited THREE YEARS for a software update for my screwed sound.
Still haven't got VOD, so don't assume just cos you have it everyone does.

Yep, you're wrong.

He didn't assume that everyone has VoD though. You quoted him yourself as saying the rollout 'is progressing nicely'.

Browneggsandham

bywater · 28-10-2005, 01:31

Well what ever ntl do they better hurry up. If VOD or PVR on demand isn't here in Coventry by 2006 there are plenty of new better offerings on the horizon that will make ntl look more like a third world outfit as far as multichannel tv is concerned. Thats if this artical is to believed. Been with NTL over 5 years and apart from the speed being upgraded there really as been nothing to sing and dance about. Infact even the speed upgrade don't mean much when you want VOD films and video over broadband but are restricted from doing so because of the bandwidth useage caps. The last lost making revenue from me to NTL was the phone line cut and voip installed call packages half the price that NTL charge and more select services and caller id free and that actually work. Next month 12 month TV contract ends we have PVR here and now all be it free view but its a very enjoyable experiance all the same. In a year time when VOD and films over the net come online who know we may even need a new unlimited cable supplier. Come on NTL I want to spend my money and stay with you but what can you offer an match at the same or reduced price as anyone else. As a customer over the years I've invested in NTL in the hope that any profits would be ploughed back into investing into to better packages and new inovation but sadly be human one gets a little impatience. Especially when all those on VOD come here to rub those of us who are well down on NTL's list noses in it.
http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1857

dextercat · 28-10-2005, 06:58

Well said Bywater, I agree with all your points, I am patiently waiting for both VOD and a PVR. It won't be long before I walk and the fact that people on here who are already enjoying VOD are making fun of those that don't is making me even more eager to leave the sinking ship!!

ntl.wotcha · 31-10-2005, 15:24

Yep I agree. Time is fast running out.

Personally I have less and less time these days to watch scheduled TV and with a baby on the way in April I will have even less chance to catch broadcast programming. I need a PVR and quick.

Not only are NTL at risk of losing to Sky+ and Freview PVR systems, we have just round the corner Xbox 360 Windows Media Centre and no doubt downloadable premium content. You already have the likes of Apple in the frame for delivering content and with Bill Gates vision of a future where all media is downloaded or streamed from the net it's not going to be long before it's a reality. (it already is a reality if you count illegal downloading).

So long and short is, it better be first half 2006 and not end 2006/2007.

I would also like to make a plea on the pricing. Please let it be an option for those on base pack. I don't want to have to buy movies or sport premium channels to get a PVR service.

**Chris** · 31-10-2005, 16:09

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Originally Posted by ntl.wotcha

Personally I have less and less time these days to watch scheduled TV and with a baby on the way in April I will have even less chance to catch broadcast programming. I need a PVR and quick.

I don't wish to shatter your illusions of impending fatherhood, but if you think loss of time to watch broadcast TV is bad, just wait and see what happens to your evenings at home with a good video/DVD/whatever.

Trust me, you don't need a PVR. You will need a very comfy bed and a strategy for coping with sleep depravation.

SMHarman · 31-10-2005, 16:16

Indeedy - On>Demand has made the purchase of PPV on NTL a reality again, I can pause rewind, just like a DVD. Prior to this PPV was pointless as if our son decided he needed some attention it was game over for the movie.

garyparson · 31-10-2005, 16:44

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Originally Posted by browneggsandham

He didn't assume that everyone has VoD though. You quoted him yourself as saying the rollout 'is progressing nicely'.

Browneggsandham

He's wrong on that score as well, cos it ain't nice. Read most of the posts on this thread and you'll realise that it's far from nice. More like at a snails pace. Thanks for pointing out his error.

Derek · 31-10-2005, 17:23

Funnily enough I think Ntl are quite happy about the speed of the rollout.

It was never, ever going to be rolled out across the whole of the network in one go.

dextercat · 31-10-2005, 21:03

I have no doubt people in the first area to be done are happy, people in NTL shouldn't be happy whilst it's taken a year to do roughly half and there's no timetable to finish!

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Originally Posted by dezzo

Funnily enough I think Ntl are quite happy about the speed of the rollout.

It was never, ever going to be rolled out across the whole of the network in one go.