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		|  28-10-2005, 18:06 | #466 |  
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		|  28-10-2005, 18:07 | #467 |  
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Humphrey Bogart 
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		|  28-10-2005, 18:09 | #468 |  
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				 To be completely fair I do agree with what you say Bifta in that an ex-smoker does have a right to complain about smoking, and even perhaps has more insight than a non-smoker, but I would say that most smokers do not deliberately harm other people with their smoke, more that carelessness and lack of consideration often leads to the harm of others as a side-effect. |  But, if you KNOW that you could be damaging your friends health by (for example) smoking in front of them in the pub yet you continue to do it, that's more than just carelessness or a lack of consideration, that's a deliberate "I don't give a toss about your health" attitude
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		|  28-10-2005, 18:31 | #469 |  
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				 Wot about the fat ones? That'll be Ken Clarke   |  Well, that's backfired then.    .
  
Last ditched attempt Hicks quote: 
"I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your ****in' mouth."
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		|  28-10-2005, 18:54 | #470 |  
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				 Last ditched attempt Hicks quote:"I smoke. If this bothers anyone, I suggest you look around at the world in which we live and shut your ****in' mouth."
 |  I'll only shut my "****in mouth" when I can do nothing about whatever it is which affecting my health.
 
Sounds like a charming bloke, this Hicks.
		 
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		|  28-10-2005, 19:01 | #471 |  
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			Hicks was brilliant. Foul-mouthed, in yer face, opinionated brilliance.
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		|  28-10-2005, 19:03 | #472 |  
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			Yeah...that'll win reasoned debates won't it....
		 
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				 Yeah...that'll win reasoned debates won't it.... |   Well, I'm actually in the ban public smoking lobby, but I loved Bill Hicks. And his act was highly politicised and effective in a preaching to the converted kind of way.
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		|  28-10-2005, 19:06 | #474 |  
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			I'm sure there are better ways to gain the respect of those who oppose you.
		 
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				 I'm sure there are better ways to gain the respect of those who oppose you. |   Lighten up Russ. He was a comic. The act needs to be seen rather than read IMO as well.
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		|  28-10-2005, 19:09 | #476 |  
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			It's just if he's held in such apparent high esteem by non-smokers for just being offensive, I really don't see the appeal.
		 
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				 It's just if he's held in such apparent high esteem by non-smokers for just being offensive, I really don't see the appeal. |  No, noooo. Please listen or watch some of Hick's performances. He was more than simply offensive. There was a savage truth and intelligence to much of what he was saying, which revealed many of the world's contradictions, and incidentally still resonate today. In the words of John Cleese he was, "savage, brilliant, funny, tremendously intelligent", and for me sadly missed    . To fully appreciate, his work needs to be viewed in the context of his performance.
  
EDIT: But of course, like everything he was not to everyones taste.
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				 It's niccotine withdrawal or even the threat of withdrawal that is the problem, as it is one of the most instantly addictive substances known. |  I thought that was crack cocaine ? 
Mind you, with the price of ciggys what they are it will soon be cheaper to become a crackhead and have social workers calling round to make sure you have enough methadone and spliff for the weekend, all for free on the NHS.
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