[Merged] Execute Saddam Hussain - Page 3

18-10-2005, 19:05

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Originally Posted by Incognitas

At the end of the day it is a decision for the Iraqi courts.What we want or desire is and should be immaterial to the decision taken by them.

Whatever the decision we and the rest of the world MUST respect it or there will be no chance for Iraq to be in charge of it's own destiny.If we interfere then what chances of Iraqi independance?

Actually, I think this should be a matter for the International Court.

(PS. What were you saying about spelling earlier?

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**Maggy** · 18-10-2005, 19:08

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Originally Posted by andyl

Actually, I think this should be a matter for the International Court.

(PS. What were you saying about spelling earlier?

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At least I got the right word in the right place...

punky · 18-10-2005, 19:10

I'm unconvinced on the death penalty generally, however... I think its important that the Iraqis are the ones who are responsible for Saddam, so if they want him executed, if that's the way, then so be it. If the Iraqis don't want him executed, then so be it.

People say the coalition are still infringing on the Iraqis and then dictating them what to do. What kind of message does it send out if they can't even punish criminals how they want to? They wanted democracy, they have got it. They wanted Saddam out of power, they got it. Now it is up to them to rule their lives as they see fit.

If anyone does deserve the death penalty, Saddam does. People are executed for single and double murders. It is alleged that he has killed 100,000s.

punky · 18-10-2005, 19:13

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Originally Posted by andyl

Actually, I think this should be a matter for the International Court.

But you know if that happens, and he is found guilty on all charges, he'll get an ASBO or tag or something.

Even if they do exact a just punishment, it still undermines the whole reason for the war in Iraq (no, not oil) it is to put Iraqis back in control of their country.

**Maggy** · 18-10-2005, 19:16

Hello! I think this could be an interesting discussion if folk could avoid getting involved in pointless point scoring.If you don't like what someone has to say use either the ignore button or report a posting.Let the rest of us try to have an adult conversation please..

18-10-2005, 19:17

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Originally Posted by Incognitas

Hello! I think this could be an interesting discussion if folk could getting involved in pointless point scoring.If you don't like what someone has to say use either the ignore button or report a posting.Let the rest of us try to have an adult conversation please..

Well said

me283 · 18-10-2005, 19:18

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Originally Posted by Incognitas

Hello! I think this could be an interesting discussion if folk could getting involved in pointless point scoring.If you don't like what someone has to say use either the ignore button or report a posting.Let the rest of us try to have an adult conversation please..

As I have tried to say in several posts now...

**Paul** · 18-10-2005, 19:25

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Originally Posted by Kliro

As has been said, there is absolutely nothing to gain from his execution, it will not bring back any lives, or right any wrongs.

You might as well say why bother trying him then

What has been gained ? to quote "it will not bring back any lives, or right any wrongs".

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Originally Posted by Kliro

For anyone completely for his killing; would you kill him yourself?

Yes.

me283 · 18-10-2005, 19:26

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Originally Posted by Incognitas

At the end of the day it is a decision for the Iraqi courts.What we want or desire is and should be immaterial to the decision taken by them.

Whatever the decision we and the rest of the world MUST respect it or there will be no chance for Iraq to be in charge of it's own destiny.If we interfere then what chances of Iraqi independence?

Very true. I guess there is always an issue over what benchmark they will use for sentencing though? If he gets life imprisonment, does that put him in the same category as someone who has killed three people for example? And on the flipside, anyone who is jailed for life for a lesser crime (and I can't think of a crime that wouldn't count as "lesser") would probably feel indignant at getting the same treatment as Saddam, in such an instance.

Ramrod · 18-10-2005, 19:29

I'm undecided. He certainly deserves to die (and yes, I would pull the trigger) but I agree that there should be no chance of him becoming a martyr.
Prison would be a better punishment (no parole-ever) but I'm not happy about the cost of keeping a genocidal murderer comfortable for the rest of his life. I suspect that the people of Iraq will not sleep well untill he is actually dead.....

18-10-2005, 19:45

Sorry if my opinion offends.... but....

I say let him have it, it may serve as an example to other ruthless dictator wannabes in the making.

Besides, the cost of a bullet / length of rope would be far cheaper than an extended prison stretch and the associated costs of such a stretch.

Besides, it's all he deserves IMO.

SlackDad · 18-10-2005, 19:52

Perhaps saddam is not the only one who should be on trial:

http://www.parstimes.com/news/archiv...ming_iraq.html
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punky · 18-10-2005, 19:59

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Originally Posted by SlackDad

Perhaps saddam is not the only one who should be on trial:

http://www.parstimes.com/news/archiv...ming_iraq.html

So if I get drunk and kill someone driving then Peugeot and Carling should get punished too?

I guess you are saying Rumsfeld (and the Regan administration) should be punished. Does that mean we can punish Chirac then?

http://www.upi.com/inc/view.php?Stor...8-013312-3195r

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Following Chirac's 1975 visit, Iraq became the leading buyer of French arms, as well as France's main oil supplier. In fact from 1980 until Iraq's 1990 invasion of Kuwait, exports to Iraq and Saudi Arabia accounted for 75 percent of France's total arms sales, with the United States eventually taking the lead in Saudi Arabia.

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1167592004

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SADDAM HUSSEIN believed he could avoid the Iraq war with a bribery strategy targeting Jacques Chirac, the President of France, according to devastating documents released last night.

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The ISG, who confirmed last autumn that they had found no WMD, last night presented detailed findings from interviews with Iraqi officials and documents laying out his plans to bribe foreign businessmen and politicians.

To keep America at bay, he focusing on Russia, France and China - three of the five UN Security Council members with the power to veto war. Politicians, journalists and diplomats were all given lavish gifts and oil-for-food vouchers.

Tariq Aziz, the former Iraqi deputy prime minister, told the ISG that the "primary motive for French co-operation" was to secure lucrative oil deals when UN sanctions were lifted. Total, the French oil giant, had been promised exploration rights.

**Maggy** · 18-10-2005, 20:00

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Originally Posted by SlackDad

Perhaps saddam is not the only one who should be on trial:

http://www.parstimes.com/news/archiv...ming_iraq.html
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http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

The latter is not on the same plain as the atrocities purported to have been done at the orders of Sadamm Hussein.What a cheap shot at our troops.

me283 · 18-10-2005, 20:03

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Originally Posted by Incognitas

The latter is not on the same plain as the atrocities purported to have been done at the orders of Sadamm Hussein.What a cheap shot at our troops.

I wish I could rep you fifty times for that. Once will have to do though