*ALL* ntl Cap Discussion (Part 3)

[mcmanic]

12 years i been with them for TV,Phone and internet i must be mad lol,maybe another reason why i didn't get put down to 512k compared to someone who only has BB and only been with them 12months and clearly only using their BB service to download 24/7

[rogerdraig]

Originally Posted by Bill C

So why do we sell more than anyone else if unlimited is so important ?

because you have effectivly a closed market as most who take broadband from ntl do so because they bought the tv telephone package and want 1 bill


personaly i think they should have to seperate out telephone costs from tv

and once they did that they may see a diferent story as people jump ship from phone and broadband

i would for one as all i care about is unlimited data not speed at all costs

[jrhnewark]

Originally Posted by rogermevans

because you have effectivly a closed market as most who take broadband from ntl do so because they bought the tv telephone package and want 1 bill


personaly i think they should have to seperate out telephone costs from tv

Nah, I don't think that should be the case, personally.

What I see as much more important is the availability of 'vanilla' ADSL, e.g. ADSL without having to have a BT phoneline. Therefore, you could have NTL TV and a phoneline and then an ADSL connection on top.

[Ignition]

Originally Posted by jrhnewark

Nah, I don't think that should be the case, personally.

What I see as much more important is the availability of 'vanilla' ADSL, e.g. ADSL without having to have a BT phoneline. Therefore, you could have NTL TV and a phoneline and then an ADSL connection on top.

You mean dry DSL?

[rogerdraig]

Originally Posted by jrhnewark

Nah, I don't think that should be the case, personally.

What I see as much more important is the availability of 'vanilla' ADSL, e.g. ADSL without having to have a BT phoneline. Therefore, you could have NTL TV and a phoneline and then an ADSL connection on top.

yep but as it is you have to get another phone line at the moment and with the way ntl bundle that is a cost on top of what ever package you pick

yep if they stopped charging for the telephone line for adsl i would go then to

today is a good example why i have me, my two kids, the wife, and a niece and nephew here on the 4 computers we have between them

i do nt wish to have to worry about a bill i dont care if its a bit slow though even on my 300k ( 1 meg now even though i opted out ) conection i can still play runescape while they surf

if that 512 thing is made available i will take that but there are faster cheaper things there if i could unbundle phone

[jrhnewark]

Originally Posted by Ignition

You mean dry DSL?

No, I mean vanilla ADSL.

(Whatever you want to call it. )

Originally Posted by rogermevans

yep but as it is you have to get another phone line at the moment and with the way ntl bundle that is a cost on top of what ever package you pick

That'll be because they make a tidy profit of telephone lines, and not sure a profit out of broadband or (especially) digital TV. It'd be nice if they didn't bundle in a phone line, but it's the way they're staying in business!

[rogerdraig]

Originally Posted by jrhnewark

No, I mean vanilla ADSL.

(Whatever you want to call it. )

That'll be because they make a tidy profit of telephone lines, and not sure a profit out of broadband or (especially) digital TV. It'd be nice if they didn't bundle in a phone line, but it's the way they're staying in business!

which is what i was saying in reply to bill ( i think lol )

that they have a closed market of people who have little choice as not many can afford a second telephone line

[Chrysalis]

I think if the situation was the same as the usa and our cable industry had not been supplying phonelines the ntl broadband takeup would be a different story.

Originally Posted by c1rcle

If you apply that logic to the extreme they should be supplying us with protection against virus, hackers & any other nuisance you can think of out there & all for free...

They do. It's called Netguard.
http://www.ntlworld.com/helpsupport/netguard/

Originally Posted by c1rcle

...They supply the connection, it's up to the customer to monitor themselves & always has been right back to the days of Bulletin Boards (the good old days).

ntl stated in one of their press releases earlier in the year, that they would provide a means of allowing the customer to check the amount they download before they started to enforce the cap.

[hjf288]

Having being lost on the whole cap thing..

Im on 2mbps - 30GB per month yes? Is that inclusive of uploads?

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by hjf288

Having being lost on the whole cap thing..

Im on 2mbps - 30GB per month yes? Is that inclusive of uploads?

Yes and Yes

[hjf288]

When does traffic reset?

Also will they be arsed if i go over say one or two gigabytes?

I mean Im not a persistant line crosser - Ive kept my usage lower than the caps but this month Ive been using alot of streaming video/audio so ive kinda cranked up the usage...

Damn if only NTL would sign Arirang to their TV service....

[hjf288]

Also I just realised i'm gimped for this month... DUMETER reset itself and was monitoring all traffic:

That means all VNC/Other traffic between my wireless systems, all virtual traffic between my VMWARE BSD system as well as my main systems usage.

I dont have a clue where im upto cap wise then :/

[mcmanic]

Again i bring this up - NTL really need to do more against cloning Mac address, typical post i seen today!

hey capped me today !!! i dont even have an account with them tho !!! lol

kinda tapped in, but they capped the MAC address... so need to get another.... lol

hence no warning letters

they are simply taking the pee

[nemesis01]

just for those who still think ntl won't cap, when i was on pc earlier today my connection dropped out for a few seconds, when it came back on it was on the reduced speed so can only download now at about 60k, still at least i don't have to worry about caps for now.