Any BB progress in S.London?

rippedoff · 24-09-2003, 13:06

I know the debate has gone on, and some people do not like it, but, can anyone point to any BB progress / new services etc. in London - especially South London. Post any details here please. NO RUMOURS OR HEARSAY - FACTS ONLY PLEASE !

bigitup_j · 24-09-2003, 18:55

my FACT is: 75,000 homes currently being upgraded to broadband in south london. don't know exactly where or when it shall be finished though.

Undisputedtruth · 24-09-2003, 23:38

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Originally posted by bigitup_j
my FACT is: 75,000 homes currently being upgraded to broadband in south london. don't know exactly where or when it shall be finished though.

I wish it was true. I live in SE London where it is allege BB would be made available in my area.

I know of no one using NTL bb in my area or those surrounding it.

gallego1 · 25-09-2003, 23:35

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Originally posted by bigitup_j
my FACT is: 75,000 homes currently being upgraded to broadband in south london. don't know exactly where or when it shall be finished though.

How can this be a fact. we can all say a figure of x000's of homes in an area will be on bb SOON

To give this comment some credibility why not state the areas (that is if you know) that are being upgraded.

I have been following the various versions of this thread since last summer (2002) and including the ficticious letter and still there are comments like " an area of S. London has been upgraded this week". YET no one in the street can confirm that this has been done or even knows what street it was.

Either we start to give the truth and that is we are looking until 2005 or whatever the present date is (depending who you speak to ) for BB in x Videotron areas or we stop being so vague and give precise postcoded areas that were done in the previous week

Otherwise this will go round the usual roundabouts and the same people will start the

and it gets closed again

What will this achieve?

Sweet F.A. as the thread will reincarnate again, more roundabouts, more closures

dialanothernumb · 26-09-2003, 08:45

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Originally posted by Undisputedtruth
I wish it was true. I live in SE London where it is allege BB would be made available in my area.

I know of no one using NTL bb in my area or those surrounding it.

Don't you already have adsl? or do you just want to have the choice?

I'm switching to adsl some time next month and am full of trepidation

D

rippedoff · 26-09-2003, 10:34

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Originally posted by gallego1
How can this be a fact. we can all say a figure of x000's of homes in an area will be on bb SOON
To give this comment some credibility why not state the areas (that is if you know) that are being upgraded.
I have been following the various versions of this thread since last summer (2002) and including the ficticious letter and still there are comments like " an area of S. London has been upgraded this week". YET no one in the street can confirm that this has been done or even knows what street it was.
Either we start to give the truth and that is we are looking until 2005 or whatever the present date is (depending who you speak to ) for BB in x Videotron areas or we stop being so vague and give precise postcoded areas that were done in the previous week
Otherwise this will go round the usual roundabouts and the same people will start the and it gets closed again
What will this achieve?
Sweet F.A. as the thread will reincarnate again, more roundabouts, more closures

HEAR! HEAR! Just what I was saying when I opened this thread - I am glad someone is listening!
OTHERS............. Pay attention please!

bigitup_j · 26-09-2003, 11:06

the 75,000 upgrade thing, is from an ntl manager. i will be able to tell you more information from 1st october (2003) onwards.
hopefully i can bring you good news!

Undisputedtruth · 26-09-2003, 11:11

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Originally posted by bigitup_j
the 75,000 upgrade thing, is from an ntl manager. i will be able to tell you more information from 1st october (2003) onwards.
hopefully i can bring you good news!

Though the news is informative, you should of qualified this statement as fact if the informatio has come from a manager.

rippedoff · 26-09-2003, 12:01

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Originally posted by bigitup_j
the 75,000 upgrade thing, is from an ntl manager. i will be able to tell you more information from 1st october (2003) onwards.
hopefully i can bring you good news!

If you are going to bring us more of your 'facts' after 1st October, please substantiatate your claims in some way that will give it (and you) some credibility. If you cannot give it credibility, I wouldn't bother if I was you!

We want FACTS - SUBSTANTIATED ! NOT RUMOURS !
Is that too much to ask for?

**Chris** · 26-09-2003, 13:15

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Originally posted by rippedoff
If you are going to bring us more of your 'facts' after 1st October, please substantiatate your claims in some way that will give it (and you) some credibility. If you cannot give it credibility, I wouldn't bother if I was you!

We want FACTS - SUBSTANTIATED ! NOT RUMOURS !
Is that too much to ask for?

Seeing as you want facts, if they come from anywhere they are going to come from the very ntl staff that are often attacked in this forum, apparently for the crime of >shock, horror< being ntl staff. This is called 'biting the hand that feeds you'.

Without wishing to aim this suggestion at any specific member of this forum, can I suggest that if we need help from ntl staff we start treating them with the same respect as everyone else and stop making demands one moment and then issuing put-downs the next?

Undisputedtruth · 26-09-2003, 13:58

I can well understand Rippedoff frustration in not receiving substantial information.

I can remember Rippedoff showing respect to NTL staff. Due to his own experiences with NTL, like many thousands of customers, he has learnt not to respect them. This is not RO fault but NTL. I'm afraid in this case NTL will have to learn how to earn respect. The honeymoon period for NTL has ended years ago!

**Chris** · 26-09-2003, 14:02

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Originally posted by Undisputedtruth
I can well understand Rippedoff frustration in not receiving substantial information.

I can remember Rippedoff showing respect to NTL staff. Due to his own experiences with NTL, like many thousands of customers, he has learnt not to respect them. This is not RO fault but NTL. I'm afraid in this case NTL will have to learn how to earn respect. The honeymoon period for NTL has ended years ago!

I too can understand why people are frustrated. Faceless corporations can be infuriating to deal with, especially when they keep claiming 'coming soon' and then not following through by delivering. I can't disagree with you on the issue of respect; NTL has let a lot of people down.

But I do think we need to try to separate our skepticism of NTL the faceless bureaucracy from the individual staff members that frequent this forum. They are all individual people who deserve respect and most of them are actually trying to help.

Undisputedtruth · 26-09-2003, 14:07

I have seen RO behaving amicably, asking sensible questions. Yet, he has faced a number of abuses. He has received very little or no help from NTL staff. Most of them has abused him in the past. Therefore, these people would have to try exceptionally harder to earn RO respect.

rippedoff · 26-09-2003, 14:39

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Originally posted by Undisputedtruth
I have seen RO behaving amicably, asking sensible questions. Yet, he has faced a number of abuses. He has received very little or no help from NTL staff. Most of them has abused him in the past. Therefore, these people would have to try exceptionally harder to earn RO respect.

Thank you for your support UDT. Although I agree with you, I think we are in danger, yet again, of this thread going way off topic, and back into a total slanging match. Some folk are already attempting to turn it into that, but let's try and ignore them.
Let's keep this thread ONLY on the topic of what is FACTUAL or SUBSTANTIATED information about BB progress (if any) in London.

**Chris** · 26-09-2003, 14:40

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Originally posted by rippedoff
Thank you for your support UDT. Although I agree with you, I think we are in danger, yet again, off this thread going way off topic, and back into a total slanging match. Some folk are already attempting to turn it into that, but let's try and ignore them.
Let's keep this thread ONLY on the topic of what is FACTUAL or SUBSTANTIATED information about BB progress (if any) in London.

I wish you success, I really do, but I'm not sure what you would accept as factual information or where you are expecting it will come from?