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Old 27-09-2005, 11:15   #16
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Re: Five held in grave theft inquiry

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What about medication? A lot of medication that keeps people alive (cancer treatments for example) are tested on animals. There was a case a while ago when one of the leaders of these 'animal rights' hooligans was found out to be taking pills tested on animals and when asked she said 'Well, you cant expect me to just die'
No medication I take comes from any labs that test on animals.

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These people are sick, they are willing to let humans die,
Sorry, did I miss abit of the article that says so?

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then bully and assault those who are trying to save life's. All the time thinking they are morally superior because they are saving an 'animal;. Well as the womens case shows, some tend to think different when its their lifes at stake
There are plenty of ways to test nowadays that doesn't have to inlcude animals. The problem is, it's usually more expensive, which means a bit less profit.....
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Old 27-09-2005, 11:25   #17
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Re: Five held in grave theft inquiry

Let's face it... they are terrorists, let them be tried as such.
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Old 27-09-2005, 11:31   #18
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Let's face it... they are terrorists, let them be tried as such.
You categorise them with the fanatics that killed 50+ people on the 7th July?
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You categorise them with the fanatics that killed 50+ people on the 7th July?
Categorise, yes; compare, no.
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Categorise, yes; compare, no.
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Let's face it... they are terrorists, let them be tried as such.
Try them as terrorists - what, try them like the failed suicide bomber?
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You categorise them with the fanatics that killed 50+ people on the 7th July?
You have to admit there are a chilling number of similarities in respect of their preparedness to endanger, threaten and take lives to further their cause OB.
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You have to admit there are a chilling number of similarities in respect of their preparedness to endanger, threaten and take lives to further their cause OB.

They threatened. I don't think they're anywhere near like the suicide bombers, but that's my opinion.
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Terrorism > Use of violence to achieve ends
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Try them as terrorists - what, try them like the failed suicide bomber?
They engineered a campaign of terror. Their means and methods were different, but they terrorised a family.

At the end of the day, whether you agree with the cause or not, it's sad that a family has been stopped from going about their lawful everyday lives, by the unlawful actions of others.
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Re: Five held in grave theft inquiry

I think it's a shame all round. A shame that the family couldn't do something a little more ethical than breed guinea pigs for testing, a shame that the protesters couldn't have protested in a more civil way, it's a shame some poor old lady has be exhumed in the most disgraceful and undignified way. But it's not a shame the business has closed down at all.
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I think it's a shame all round. A shame that the family couldn't do something a little more ethical than breed guinea pigs for testing, a shame that the protesters couldn't have protested in a more civil way, it's a shame some poor old lady has be exhumed in the most disgraceful and undignified way. But it's not a shame the business has closed down at all.
That's debatable. However, whilst laws can be enforced, ethics can't. And let's not forget that the lady was just a relative, not even what the protestors would call an "offender".
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That's debatable. However, whilst laws can be enforced, ethics can't. And let's not forget that the lady was just a relative, not even what the protestors would call an "offender".


No, it's not debatable, it's my opinion. Which I won't change.

Yes, I know she was a relative, thanks. Little point in them digging up a complete and utter stranger really...
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No, it's not debatable, it's my opinion. Which I won't change.

Yes, I know she was a relative, thanks. Little point in them digging up a complete and utter stranger really...
NO point in them digging up anyone. And so what, she was a relative? Do you think that makes it any more acceptable? In your opinion of course.

It is a shame that people who have not broken any laws have had to give in to a group of law-breaking, anarchic extremists. I hope they set up business elsewhere, and make a whole lot more profits than before. Oh, and that's my opinion, so it's not debatable.
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NO point in them digging up anyone. And so what, she was a relative? Do you think that makes it any more acceptable? In your opinion of course.
No!!!!! I've already said I don't agree with what they did. How many more times to I have to type it out???

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It is a shame that people who have not broken any laws have had to give in to a group of law-breaking, anarchic extremists. I hope they set up business elsewhere, and make a whole lot more profits than before.
I guess I know your stance on animal testing then....

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Oh, and that's my opinion, so it's not debatable.
I wouldn't be so arrogant to suggest it was.
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